Showing posts with label Roswell UFO Crash. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Roswell UFO Crash. Show all posts

Monday, October 14, 2024

The True Story of the Roswell UFO Incident – “Unsolved Mysteries”

The True Story of the Roswell UFO Incident – “Unsolved Mysteries” - www.theufochronicles.com

"I believe that the military experienced the recovery of an alien spacecraft. It’s where the evidence is leading us," Randle claimed in the episode. "The Air Force says they have no evidence it was extraterrestrial. I think that the files were gathered up and are in a different repository hidden deep in the archives of the government and therefore there was no paper trail to it."



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It's been nearly 80 years since the Roswell incident, and there are countless theories about what was found in New Mexico. Ufologists Don Schmitt and Kevin Randle, who have been trying to uncover
By Samantha Stutsman
MSN
10-8-24
the truth since 1989, believe Roswell is the "one case that could solve the entire UFO mystery overnight." Their findings about an alleged government cover-up are documented in Netflix's Unsolved Mysteries, volume 5, episode 4.

Wednesday, December 13, 2023

Roswell Incident: Response to UFO Air Force Report - Fund for UFO Research - 1997

Roswell Incident - Response to UFO Air Force Report - Fund for UFO Research - 1997


     Now response to last week's U.S. Air Force report on an alleged U.F.O. crash at Roswell New Mexico in1947. Today a group called the fund for U.F.O. research hosted this 40 minute event at the
By C-SPAN
7-2-1997
National Press Club. They outlined their position on the Roswell incident and the possibility of extraterrestrial life.

Don Berliner: My name is Don Berliner, this is Rob Swiatek. We are both members of the Executive Committee of the Fund for U.F.O. Research. The Fund is a nonprofit corporation set up to support scientific research and educational projects aimed at shedding some light on the U.F.O. mystery. We don't know what U.F.O.'s are. We would like to know. A long term mystery like this must be solved sooner or later. And we want to do our part by mainly by bringing the scientific community into this problem. Our reason for being here today concerns the latest Air Force attempt to explain the July, 1947 Roswell incident. And one of the things that keeps us going is not only the nuts and bolts of U.F.O. sightings, but the increasingly peculiar behavior of the U.S. government, in particular the United States Air Force. This latest report is far and away the least believable of a series of reports the Air Force has issued on this particular aspect of UFOs. Each one intended as a final answer to the question. And obviously not succesful.

Friday, August 18, 2023

More on Whistleblower Grusch and UFO Crashes

Whislteblower, David Grusch gving opening statement at the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency congressional hearing

"... we have been bombarded by reports from David Grusch about what he heard from sources he refuses to identify, and that the US Government has, in its possession both craft and bodies from an alien source ... Yet the main street media is acting as if this is something new."

     On June 25, there was another video put up on YouTube about David Grush and his claims of captured or retrieved alien craft, and the bodies of the alien pilots. It is a long interview and you can watch it here. Here’s one of the things I found interesting. They made it clear that Grush had not been before a senate committee and he apparently had not talked to any of the senators. He did meet with senators’ staffs and answered their questions. It also seems that he met with, and was questioned by members of the House. I don’t know how long that session, or those sessions, lasted. I will not speculate about his being under oath or if those sessions were somewhat less formal.
Kevin Randle - www.theufochronicles.com
By Kevin Randle
A Different Perspective
6-27-23

I will also note that in the above commentary, there was discussion of the body language analyses that have been done. I did watch one and it seemed the conclusion was a more or less, “I don’t know.” There were no significant indications of lying, but there were hints that he might not have been comfortable with what he was saying. Well, if he’s spilling secrets, I can imagine that some of the questions might have made him nervous.

Here's the thing about this that I simply do not understand. He is not the first person with interesting credentials to make these claims. I too, have talked with military officers who have some knowledge of UFOs, crash retrievals, and the recovery of the alien flight crews.

Brigadier Arthur Exon told me about the material from the Roswell crash being taken to Wright Field, later Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. He said that he talked with those involved in the analysis of the material. He said, “We heard the material was coming to Wright Field.”
Brigadier General Arthur Exon

I asked about bodies and General Exon said, “There was another location… where they did say there were bodies… they were all found outside the craft but were in fairly good condition.”

And he said that one of the bodies had been taken to Lowry Army Air Field near Denver because the Army had a mortuary service there. They would know the best way to preserve what might be a unique biological sample. Exon said all this on audio tape.

I asked him, specifically and he told me, “Roswell was the recovery of a craft from space.” I have a letter from him in which he acknowledges that all the quotes in the book, UFO Crash at Roswell were accurate and this is one of those quotes.

The point is that here is an Air Force general acknowledging that the military had recovered a craft not built on Earth and piloted by beings who were not human. Yet this information was of no interest to the main stream media and our attempts to share that information with the Air Force during their investigation was not acknowledged.

Chester Lytle had a distinguished career. He was involved in creating the trigger for the first atomic bombs, helped develop hydrofoil technology and was a colleague of William Blanchard who was the commanding officer in Roswell in July 1947. Don Schmitt and I interviewed Lytle several times and he shared with us several UFO stories in which he was one of the primary witnesses. The most important thing he said, however, he told to Robert Hastings, who reported it in his book UFOs and Nukes.

According to Hastings, Lytle told him as he, Lytle, was making an emergency trip to Chicago on an Air Force transport, Blanchard, traveling with him, told him a little more about the strange craft that had been found in Roswell in 1947. Blanchard, who was the Vice Chief of Staff of the Air Force in the 1960s, told Lytle that a spacecraft had crashed near his base and that there had been four bodies recovered.

Hastings wrote, “Startled by Lytle’s unexpected admission, I [Hastings] asked, ‘Blanchard actually told you that the Roswell object was an alien spacecraft?’ Lytle replied emphatically, ‘Oh, absolutely!’”

Patrick Saunders, who was the adjutant at the Roswell Army Air Field in 1947, bought copies of both UFO Crash at Roswell and The Truth about the UFO Crash at Roswell. He wrote on the flyleaf of one of those books, “Here’s the truth and I still haven’t told anybody anything!” He signed with “Pat.”

On that page, with a heading of “Damage Control, was a description of some of the activities at the RAAF. It said:

Files were altered. So were personal records, along with assignments and various codings and code words… After the impact site was cleaned, the soldiers were debriefed, and the bodies and the craft removed, silence fell. It would not be broken for almost forty-five years.
heading of “Damage Control, was a description of some of the activities at the RAAF
Patrick Saunders statement about the accuracy
of the information included in the book

And not to drag this out much longer, Edwin Easley, who was the Provost Marshal in Roswell, told me that he had been sworn to secrecy, that Mack Brazel (the man who reported the wreckage to the base) had been held in the base guest house for a number of days, confirming that end of the story, and mentioned “the creatures,” to family members just prior to his death in the 1990s.

The real point here is that in the last few weeks we have been bombarded by reports from David Grusch about what he heard from sources he refuses to identify, and that the US Government has, in its possession both craft and bodies from an alien source. But this is exactly what Don and I reported in the early 1990s complete with the names of sources and documentation confirming the credentials of those sources. Yet the main street media is acting as if this is something new.

I might add here, that I served as both an Army and an Air Force intelligence officer. I served in Iraq and was decorated with the Bronze Star Medal and the Combat Action Badge. In other words, I have some of the same credentials as does Grusch, and when Don and I published our books on Roswell, the response from the media was underwhelming.

My research, and Don’s research didn’t end there. I have since published Roswell in the 21st Century and Understanding Roswell, which I believe bring the whole of that case into sharper focus. And before someone mentions the nonsensical Mogul explanation for the debris recovered, I might suggest you consult both the books which demonstrate that Mogul is not a viable answer.

If you are starved for names, dates, sources and documentation, these books provide it and as my old nemesis used to say, “It only takes one case to prove that UFOs are extraterrestrial.” Roswell is that case and the evidence overlooked for decades is out there for those interested in reading about it.

Sunday, July 05, 2020

Roswell, Alien Craft and Colonel Phillip Corso



     The most famous UFO incident of all time occurred this week. On July 2nd, 1947, something crashed in the desert outside of Roswell, New Mexico.

It was this incident that inspired books, movies, TV specials, and multiple theories. Everyone wanted to know: was it a flying
By George Knapp,
Duncan Phenix
www.mysterywire.com
7-2-20
saucer from another world, a weather balloon, a foreign craft? Even today, believers in the UFO theory still argue about the basics such as where and when the Roswell crash occurred. George Knapp sat down with Col. Corso for a one-on-one interview in 1997. This complete interview has never aired or been published before now.

Tuesday, June 30, 2020

Roswell’s UFO Festival (2020) To Go On Virtually

Roswell’s UFO Festival To Go On Virtually


     The COVID-19 pandemic has forced some of the biggest events in New Mexico to cancel. The UFO Festival was scheduled to take place this weekend before it was canceled. However, Roswell is still going forward with a different kind of festival.

By Corey King www.krqe.com 6-29-20
“I’m just really blown away by the positive, the positivity you know,” said Marie Manning. MainStreet Roswell, the organizers for the UFO Festival said even though they are not allowed to hold the traditional festival that everyone is used to, they have decided to hold a virtual one instead.

Saturday, June 20, 2020

Trump Junior Asks Dad About Aliens and Roswell in Father's Day Interview

Trump Junior Asks Dad About Aliens and Roswell in Father's Day Interview


     President Donald Trump says he’s heard some interesting things about Roswell, but he’s not sharing even with his eldest child.

By Associated Press
6-18-20
Trump made the comments Thursday in a Father’s Day-themed interview with his son Don Trump Jr., hosted by the president’s reelection campaign. Don Jr. wound down his interview by jokingly asking his Dad/President if he would ever divulge more information about Roswell, the New Mexico city known for its proximity to the arguably most famous UFO event — “and let us know what’s really going on.”

Saturday, May 30, 2020

Senate Staffer, Dick D'Amato's Statement On UFO Crashes in New Mexico

Senate Staffer, Dick D'Amato's Statement On UFO Crashes in New Mexico



     Recently, I discovered Dick D’Amato’s current official position on UFO Crashes. He was a senior US Senate staffer, who met numerous UFO researcher on the matter back in 1990s. According to archive.org, the statement is present on his official website at least from 2013. It reads in full:
By Giuliano Marinkovic
omnitalkradio
5-26-20
1980'S INQUIRY INTO UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL CRASH IN NEW MEXICO

“In the 1980's and 1990's, I served on the staff of the Senate Democratic Leader, Senator Robert C. Byrd, and my responsibilities involved helping manage the budgets of the Department of Defense and the National Foreign Intelligence Program. My duties included responding to a Senators and committees request for information, analysis, and legislation on a variety of national security issues. In this context, a senior Senate Committee chairman asked me to conduct a preliminary inquiry into allegations that came to his attention regarding unidentified aerial crashes in the 1940's in New Mexico. I met with a number of people who had made public statements on the matter. I reported my conclusion to the Senator that the basis for such allegations did not appear to merit any further Senate investigation. Beyond this inquiry on behalf of the Senator, I have no personal opinion on the matter and consider the inquiry to have been closed for over 20 years.”
Discovery happened while I was processing some leftovers on Dick D’Amato that I previously collected. Amato’s official page was located on this address:

http://cricharddamato.com

However, that domain is now defunct but this one still works:

http://www.megalomediadesigns.com/dickdamato.html

His statement is positioned under the section “Downloads” where it leads to subsection titled:

Response to UFO Chronicles

http://www.megalomediadesigns.com/dickdamato_downloads.html

http://www.megalomediadesigns.com/dickdamato_response.html

I immediately contacted Frank Warren – author of the UFO Chronicles website - to double check if D’Amato ever submitted this response to him. It was not so but this article possibly triggered D’Amato’s to put his reaction on the website (article describes meeting between Jesse Marcel Jr and Dick D’Amato):

Jesse Marcel Jr.


Although D’Amato’s statement on his website has a different tone compared to reported off the record meetings, it is still valuable to be aware about his official position on the topic.
Companion Material: Audio and Articles:

Articles by Keith Basterfield:

C Richard D'Amato and 'black" UFO programs

More on C Richard D'Amato and 'black" UAP programs

For additional context check my 2019 tweets too:

2006 audio interview between Thomas Horn and Jesse Marcel Jr

Whitley Strieber’s Novel (related to meeting between Marcel Jr and D’Amato)

D'Amato, Stevens & Inouye

Stanton Friedman Confirms Dick D'Amato

Stanton Friedman confirms in this UFO Updates 2006 post he was also present in secure room with Marcel Jr and D’Amato.

Thursday, May 14, 2020

UPDATE: Roswell’s UFO Festival Canceled Due to Coronavirus

Roswell’s UFO Festival Canceled Due to Coronavirus



     The 2020 UFO Festival and Roswell Galacticon have been canceled due to the coronavirus. The event will not be rescheduled according to MainStreet Roswell and the Roswell Galacticon that made the announcement Monday.

By Corey King
www.krqe.com
5-11-20
“Oh it’s a complete bummer,” said Laney Smith President of MainStreet Roswell.

The city announced that this year’s UFO Festival has been canceled due to the coronavirus. Coordinators said it was not an easy decision knowing people plan for this all year. People come to the festival from all over the world and organizers want to keep everyone safe.

Friday, May 08, 2020

Roswell's ‘UFOlogist Invasion’ Cancelled, But Festival Still a Go

Roswell Festivall 2020 Banner



     International UFO Museum and Research Center deputy director Karen Jaramillo announced on Wednesday that the 2020 UFOlogist Invasion — a major part of the UFO Festival in July — would be canceled.

By Christina Stock
The Roswell Daily Record
5-6-2020
“The uncertainty of the COVID-19 pandemic brings concern for near-future events. The safety and well-being of our employees, speakers, visitors and community remain a top priority. Although it was a difficult decision, it was the responsible one. We hope to see you all at the 2021 UFOlogist Invasion,” Jaramillo wrote in a press release issued Wednesday.

Friday, March 20, 2020

Roswell UFO Festival Still a Go

Roswell UFO Festival 2020



     With Coronavirus spreading rapidly across the nation, the city of Roswell says they’re doing their best to keep things under control.

By Faith Egbuonu
www.kob.com
3-13-20
“We are alert to the situation,” Mayor Dennis Kintigh said. “We don’t have any cases that I'm aware of in Roswell and we hope to keep it that way.”

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“We don’t have any plans at this time to postpone or cancel, but we will be relying on those governmental agencies to make that determination if it comes to that.”

Saturday, December 22, 2018

'The Roswell Deception' by James Carrion – A Review

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'The Roswell Deception' by James Carrion

     In his latest work, The Roswell Deception, writer, researcher, former intelligence analyst, and former MUFON International Director James Carrion further lays out his hypothesis of human deception surrounding the now famous UFO Summer of '47 and, particularly, the Roswell incident. Readers unfamiliar with Carrion's previous work, Anachronism, will find themselves better informed of the dynamics and proposed possibilities if they read it before diving into The Roswell Deception.

Carrion strongly suspects deception operations executed by the U.S. intelligence community during the mid 1940's included
Jack Brewer
By Jack Brewer
The UFO Trail
12-1918
activity around a number of events typically considered to be UFO-related - or at least that's how UFO enthusiasts tend to categorize the events. Intelligence analysts, maybe not so much.

Carrion offers readers a different perspective to "what" may have been taking place during the era, "how" it may have taken place, and the important "why" officials may have attempted to deceive adversarial intel analysts. Suffice it to say objectives would not have included leading either global adversaries or citizens to believe extraterrestrials were afoot, although collateral damage to that effect may have indeed occurred. Moreover, Carrion cites more than ample sources which document ambiguous press releases from intel officials, newspaper articles written by media sources linked to such officials, and authentic government documents which set the stage for both deception ops and protocols describing the tactics observed.

The meat and potatoes of the hypothesis suggests a small group of U.S. intelligence professionals conducted deception operations for a variety of purposes, creating advantageous circumstances. Such circumstances included providing adversaries, namely Russia, "clues" which would be subjectively misread and result in incorrect conclusions, particularly about advanced weapons development (This writer finds the possibility intriguing the same IC proverbial sprinkling of breadcrumbs may continue to invoke subjective misinterpretations among UFO investigators). The situation may have ultimately created extremely desirable codebreaking opportunities. While conceding he cannot yet conclusively prove his theory, Carrion offers a fascinating chain of aptly documented events, relationships among the players, and cited official records in support of the hypothesis.

In one instance, the American Press and United Press were simultaneously provided differing press releases on the Roswell incident. As explained on page 432:
Lieutenant Warren Haught, the public information officer at Roswell Army Airfield dropped off the press releases at both KSWS and KGFL on July 8, 1947, but rather than each release being an exact copy of the other, there were significant differences between them. That makes no sense from a public relations perspective but makes complete sense from a cryptographic gardening perspective.
The releases are cited and explored, as are specific reasons for the potential relevance. More instances are also cited in which differing details of flying objects and purported crashes were provided to various media outlets (Spitsbergen gets mentions on pages 88 and 218, which, extremely interestingly, was the storied site of a likely government "plant" of a 1952 UFO crash story). Carrion theorizes purposes for publication of such 1946-47 stories included monitoring Russian communication channels, the options of which were vastly limited as compared to today. The result was an increase in opportunities to both break codes and flush out spies, depending on identifying sources of information for the foreign agents. Many intriguing circumstances are cited, including documented instances of pushing additional media outlets for coverage when one media source declined the story.

It's reasonable to conclude, to whatever extent Carrion may or may not be entirely correct, the topic was exploited for yet to be better understood purposes. To the author's credit, the implications and possibilities deserve further research and consideration.

In this writer's opinion, the effort allotted to the Kenneth Arnold case makes the book a worthy read in itself. The more perplexing aspects of the saga are explored, with particular attention given to anonymous calls to a newspaper about meetings conducted with Arnold. The events could certainly be viewed in support of the author's theory as explained among the documentation of the circumstances. Those who feel themselves informed on the Summer of '47 would be well served to read the ideas and consider the citations in order to possibly develop some differing perspectives or, at the least, become better qualified to competently discuss and debate Carrion's material.

The Roswell Deception, p.35
The Roswell Deception, p.35
Among the dozens of interesting items presented include a newspaper report on the actions of then-Deputy Chief of the Army Air Forces Lt. Gen. Hoyt Vandenberg on July 8, 1947, a key media day in the Roswell saga as mentioned above. Explaining his suspicions deception planners were feeding stories to the wires, Carrion noted the media reported Vandenberg "hurried to his headquarters press section." However, a review of Vandenberg's desk log shows he arrived at work at 9:20 a.m. and had a routine day of meetings. It was not until after 6 p.m. on his way home that the general visited a public information officer. Not the actions of what we'd suspect to be a troubled officer, or, perhaps more importantly in this context, not the activity as reported by the press.

Extensive effort is invested by the author in explaining and supplying documentation of specific weapons projects Russian and American intel officials were either pursuing or attempting to imply they were pursuing. The manners these projects indeed overlap into UFO lore is cited and relevant.

There are many dynamics worthy of mention and deeper study, including a Russian effort to secure a German husband and wife team who were working on a saucer-like long range missile delivery system prior to the collapse of the Third Reich. This was followed by an allied disinformation effort which involved misrepresenting a discontinued weapons research and development project as an active top secret initiative, described to the press as an airborne weapon more powerful than the atomic bomb. Shortly thereafter, Kenneth Arnold and company began reporting flying discs.

 The Roswell Deception, p.430
 The Roswell Deception, p.430

Incidentally and potentially quite importantly, Arnold's sighting was not unique in several relevant ways, he just seems to have become the most well known. Similarly, the Roswell incident was just one of several purported crashed disc stories, possibly orchestrated to support rumors of weapons development and ultimately to snare spies. The Roswell incident was given much more UFO significance years later than was the case at the time. It was almost certainly not suspected by global intelligence analysts of being an ET spacecraft, and probably not much of the general public at the time either. Many inter-agency memos and related documents are explored as Carrion explains how he thinks the situations were orchestrated and the players manipulated.

Among the biggest takeaways may well be the glaringly different picture that emerges from historic forensic research (as conducted by James Carrion) as compared to what we might term more UFO-friendly takes on the era. Carrion's work explores sources defined as credible by the professional research community, including verified documents, newspaper clippings, and records of declassified operations, among other items. Attention is given to chronological order, and the resulting work deserves careful consideration and objective, sincere feedback.

Another relevant takeaway is the extent American intel officers warned of Russian attacks from over the North Pole and targeting the northwest U.S. prior to a wave of disc sightings in the area. Numerous citations are offered which document much public concern the increasingly reported discs were Russian weapons. Also offered is documentation of apparent attempts to influence Arnold's beliefs surrounding the reports and his sighting. It seems entirely feasible the extraterrestrial origin questionably attributed to cases such as Maury Island, Arnold, and Roswell was more embedded after the fact, perhaps much more long after the fact, than was actually the initial circumstance as often assumed.

The relevance concerning Carrion's theory is that Russian weapons development was publicly discussed by U.S. officials, yet chaos would ensue among Russians trying to assess the situation as much as was the case among American analysts not in the loop. Coded communications necessarily would involve specific terms and proper nouns, advantageous to breaking the codes.

The suspected deception planners are named and explored, including some of their possible media contacts. Readers familiar with the story lines will recognize the relevance of Joint Security Control. Rising in potential significance is Joint Counterintelligence Center, or JCIC. From page 459:
In April of 1947 the spy hunters of the early CIA, the Army and the Navy at the JCIC, were poised to set their nets and trap their prey. I hypothesize that what fueled their COMINT based counterintelligence would be gardened news stories planted in the summer of 1947 in the American Press – stories of flying saucers. When the CIA releases all the early records on the JCIC, we will know the truth of whether a gardening operation took place.
It could again be emphasized that to whatever extent Carrion may be correct about his suspicions, the involvement of intelligence agencies in the theatrics and their unclear agendas are confirmed. The specific events explored by Carrion are extremely unlikely to involve extraterrestrial or paranormal factors. It is also quite possible, as asserted by the author, the events explored are not entirely mundane, but involve intentional deception by the intelligence community. The resulting lines of research should accordingly take the possibilities into consideration.

The Roswell Deception is 523 pages on pdf. It is available for free download at James Carrion's blog, Anachronism.

Monday, November 05, 2018

Secrets Behind Roswell Alien Autopsy Footage

Secrets Behind Roswell Autopsy Footage
IN THE 1990s, this video convinced millions that aliens existed.
Now the man behind it has revealed how he pulled off the forgery.
     THE man behind one of the most convincing hoaxes the world has ever seen has finally come clean about how he pulled it off.
By Alex Carey
www.news.com.au
11-1-18

In 1995, the imaginations of people around the globe were captivated by 17 minutes of grainy, black and white footage of what appeared to be an alien autopsy.

For millions of believers, the infamous Roswell Autopsy Footage provided proof that aliens had landed on Earth in the 1947 “UFO” crash in Roswell, New Mexico.

[...]

... last year, filmmaker and ex-magician Spyros Melaris announced he was behind the footage — and that it was entirely fake.

Monday, June 05, 2017

Does New Roswell Witness Hold Up To Scrutiny?

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ROSWELL - Former US Deputy Sheriff Charlie Forgus Saw Alien Bodies

John Keel was Right - Another New Roswell Witness

     Well, it’s happened again, just as John Keel said it would. As I have mentioned before, Keel had written in 1991 that by the end of the century (meaning going into the 21st century) there would be dozens of people, if not hundreds, claiming to have been in Roswell at the time of the UFO crash. Another one has appeared on the scene by the name of Charles H. Forgus, a soldier who served during the Second World War and who was a deputy sheriff in 1947. No, he wasn’t a deputy in Roswell but one in Big Spring, Texas, which is Howard County.

By Kevin Randle
A Different Perspective
4-20-17

Here’s how this plays out. According to him, he, with the Sheriff in Big Spring, had traveled to Roswell to pick up a prisoner. While they were on their way, they heard, over the police radio, about the flying saucer crash. They drove out to the site, saw hundreds of soldiers, though Forgus didn’t know which branch of the service they were in (the US Army on their fatigues should have been a big clue), and saw a huge disk crashed into the side of a mountain.

He was asked if there were lights on the craft and he said, “No, they went out when it banged into the wall in the creek. It was like a mountain on the side of the creek.” (Though I’m not sure how he would have known that the lights went out when it hit because he wasn’t there.)

He also said, “We couldn’t see that well because of the trees. It was in a riverbank. It slammed into a river bank. I saw them lifting one up with the crane.”

I recognized the place he was talking about. I had been there, I had walked the land and I knew that there was no creek or river there but from the picture that had been printed in The Truth about the UFO Crash at Roswell, it looked as if there was.

Wednesday, April 26, 2017

John Keel was Right - Another New Roswell Witness

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John Keel was Right - Another New Roswell Witness

     Well, it’s happened again, just as John Keel said it would. As I have mentioned before, Keel had written in 1991 that by the end of the century (meaning going into the 21st century) there would be dozens of people, if not hundreds, claiming to have been in Roswell at the time of the UFO crash. Another one has appeared on the scene by the name of Charles H. Forgus, a soldier who served during the Second World War and who was a deputy sheriff in 1947. No, he wasn’t a deputy in Roswell but one in Big Spring, Texas, which is Howard County.

By Kevin Randle
A Different Perspective
4-20-17

Here’s how this plays out. According to him, he, with the Sheriff in Big Spring, had traveled to Roswell to pick up a prisoner. While they were on their way, they heard, over the police radio, about the flying saucer crash. They drove out to the site, saw hundreds of soldiers, though Forgus didn’t know which branch of the service they were in (the US Army on their fatigues should have been a big clue), and saw a huge disk crashed into the side of a mountain.

He was asked if there were lights on the craft and he said, “No, they went out when it banged into the wall in the creek. It was like a mountain on the side of the creek.” (Though I’m not sure how he would have known that the lights went out when it hit because he wasn’t there.)

He also said, “We couldn’t see that well because of the trees. It was in a riverbank. It slammed into a river bank. I saw them lifting one up with the crane.”

I recognized the place he was talking about. I had been there, I had walked the land and I knew that there was no creek or river there but from the picture that had been printed in The Truth about the UFO Crash at Roswell, it looked as if there was. You can see for yourself that his description matches the picture except for the water.

He added, “The saucer hit the bank on this side of the creek and I was standing on the other side of the bank, at the top of the hill. I was looking down at the site…” (This is the point of view of the picture.)

Kaufmann's Alleged Crash Site (Copyright Kevin Randle)
Kaufmann's Alleged Crash Site (Copyright Kevin Randle)

This is what Frank Kaufmann had said as well. Same description of the craft having hit the side of the canyon wall near what looked like a creek or river. Of course, we all know that Kaufmann’s testimony has been discredited. And if Forgus is describing the scene as if he was standing on a cliff some distance away, then his tale is bogus as well.

Forgus added some detail that is interesting, but also somewhat contradictory. I know this because I have been to that place. From where he was allegedly standing, he said he could see the bodies, though he didn’t have a good description of them. He talked about the big eyes. He said, “They eyes looked like the ones we see on television and the pictures of them.”

But he was so far away, according to him, it is difficult to believe that he would have seen the eyes. The real clue is about having seen alien creatures on television. He just picked the most popular version of the aliens to describe.

Here’s another nugget. According to several of the witnesses, and this includes CIC agent, Bill Rickett, William Woody and former part owner of KGFL radio Jud Roberts, the roads out to the area had been blocked and the crash site was cordoned off. Forgus and his sheriff wouldn’t have been able to get anywhere near the site before they would have been stopped by the military. Forgus made it clear that the military was already there with hundreds of soldiers, a big crane and trucks to remove the craft (Can you say “Alien Autopsy?”). If that is true, then the cordons were up and a sheriff from Texas wouldn’t have been allowed to penetrate it. He and Forgus would have been stopped before they got close enough to see anything at all simply because they weren’t military, they weren’t the local law enforcement and they had no legal authority in New Mexico.

The other part of the story that fails is that they heard about this on the police radio, which seems unlikely, but even if that had been true, they wouldn’t have heard instructions on how to find the place. You can’t see it from the main roads, and the gravel and dirt roads into the area are quite rough and quite confusing. If you don’t know where you are going, you’d get lost. Without someone leading them in, or precise directions which wouldn’t have been broadcast, they would never have found their way to the crash site.


This story was uncovered by Philip Mantle and was told to Deanna Bever in 1999, a Los Angeles private investigator. The tale appears in the book, UFOs Today: 70 Years of Lies, Disinformation and Government Cover-Up by Irena McCammon Scott, Ph.D. and published by Flying Disk Press. It was edited by Philip Mantle.