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Wednesday, November 23, 2016

UFOs Reported Over Saigon | UFO CHRONICLE – 1948

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Flying Saucers Seen in Saigon - The Morning News (Wilmington, Delaware) 8-4-1948

     The French News Agency AFP reported today that two Flying Saucers were sighted yesterday in Saigon, Indo-China.
The Morning News
8-4-1948

The first of the strange objects made a brief appearance over the city at midday, AFP said. The second reportedly whipped and whirled through the Saigon sky for a full 15 minutes just before sunset.

Wednesday, September 14, 2016

USAF Records Confirm 'UFO Activity' -Pt 2-

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Air Force Records Re UFOs and HMAS Hobart (4)
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     In Part 1 of this series, I discussed the accidental missile strike on the Royal Australian Navy’s (RAN) HMAS Hobart by a United States Air Force (USAF) F–4 Phantom Fighter–Bomber in the early hours of June 17th, 1968. Specifically, I aimed to highlight that there has never really been official confirmation and consensus on what the jet was supposed to be firing on, and, that there was a possibility that the aerial targets it had in its sights were unusual and unidentifiable. The most sensible hypothesis has generally been that North Vietnamese M–14 Hound helicopters were flying in the vicinity of the Hobart, and that the F–4 Phantom made a dreadful targeting error.
Paul Dean
By Paul Dean
ufos-documenting-the-evidence.blogspot.com
8-11-16
However, in light of a series of recent discoveries, by both myself and Boston based researcher Barry Greenwood, this may not be the case. I have already gone to considerable length highlighting some never–before–seen information in one particular USAF record, which is titled Project CHECO South East Asia Report: Air War In The DMZ September 1967 – June 1968. Again, Part 1 of this series is worth looking at for those who haven’t.

Of course, no serious research project falls back on a single document. Anyone who knows my work will be well aware that I ceaselessly bring forth more, and more, and more, unseen government UFO records to the table. In this Part 2, I aim to present new, or barely known, records which relate to the HMAS Hobart incident. Moreover, there may be, unsurprisingly, a great deal more still–classified records relating to the incident that we simply do not have access to.

An important question which must be asked is that of terminology. Is the use of the term “UFO”, when used in Vietnam–era military records, merely a “catchall” for anything which is airborne and simply unknown to the observer? It would be easy to assume such is the case. However, time and time again we see the term “UFO”, or “Unidentified Flying Object” as distinctly referenced alongside terms like “unidentified aircraft”, “unknown aircraft” and the like.

One of the many examples of this distinction can be found in the individual line items found in a United States Marine Corps (USMC), Command Chronology” publication, titled “Command Chronology, Headquarters, 3erd Marine Division, 1st Amphibious Tractor Battalion, 1 June, 1968 to 30 June, 1968. In the “Sequential Listing of Significant Events” section of the document, there are pages of raw, tabulated text which discusses the daily activities of the 3erd Marine Division’s 1st Amphibious Tractor Battalion, in June, 1968. An entry for the 18th of June states:
Co "A" at C–4 position reported unidentified aircraft due east of C–4 position.
The very next line item states:
Elms Co "A" at Oceanview reported 6 UFOs vic of the mouth of the Ben Hai River
Note the distinction between the terms “unidentified aircraft” and “UFO”? Presumably, military observers would desire to use anything but the term “UFO”, yet we see it used time and time and again throughout all manner of such records.

Another (USMC) “Command Chronology” publication makes reference to ongoing UFO activity in the precise vicinity of where HMAS Hobart was patrolling, and only two nights beforehand. Titled III Marine Amphibious Force, Air Ground Team, Command Chronology, June 1968, it was printed by Headquarters, III Marine Amphibious Force, Military Assistance Command on the 9th of August, 1968. Originally classified “SECRET”, and only downgraded to “UNCLASSIFIED” in 2014, it is held, among thousands of similar publications, at the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) in Washington DC. In a chapter titled “Intelligence”, there is this curious statement on Page 17:
During the late evening hours of 15 June approximately 15 unidentified aircraft, believed to be enemy helicopters, were reportedly sighted in the DMZ area. Since that time there have been numerous sightings, both visual and by radar, of unidentified, slow–moving UFO’s in the DMZ area and seaward toward Tiger Island. No hard evidence of these aircraft has yet been received.
So, even this USMC historical record – which was authored by utilising raw and classified records – states that “unidentified aircraft” on the 15th of June were only “believed” to be enemy helicopters. Beyond that, “numerous sightings” – seen both visually and on radar – of “unidentified, slow–moving UFO’s” around Tiger Island obviously were of concern. The date–range of these sightings, of course, lead right up to the accidental missile strike on HMAS Hobart. I have imaged the page above top. ...

Saturday, September 10, 2016

USAF Records Confirm 'UFO Activity' During Aerial Assault on The HMAS Hobart

Pt 1
Air Force Records Re UFOs and HMAS Hobart (1)
Air Force Records Re UFOs and HMAS Hobart (2)
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     On October the 16th, 1973, the United States Air Force’s (USAF) Chief of Staff, General George S. Brown, who was later appointed as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, delivered a press conference in Illinois. When the UFO matter was raised, Gen. Brown curiously stated:

“I don’t know whether this story has ever been told or not. They weren’t called UFOs. They were called enemy helicopters. And they were only seen at night and they were only seen in certain places. They were seen up around the DMZ in the early summer of ’68. And this resulted in quite a little battle. And in the course of this,
Paul Dean
By Paul Dean
ufos-documenting-the-evidence.blogspot.com
8-11-16
an Australian destroyer took a hit and we never found any enemy, we only found ourselves when this had all been sorted out. And this caused some shooting there, and there was no enemy at all involved but we always reacted…”

Candid statements like this were somewhat of a rarity in the 1970’s. The USAF had announced the closure of Project Blue Book in January, 1970, officially closing the doors in the Spring of 1970. But over in Vietnam, UFO reports were consistently being collected and investigated, in various forms, with the primary purpose being to determine whether or not these events were related to enemy activity. Often they were not.

Of all the reported sightings of unusual aerial activity, none have proved more controversial than those of June the 17th, 1968. There has been much written about this event, so further narrative is not needed beyond this brief summary. During the early hours of the morning, a Royal Australian Navy’s (RAN) guided missile destroyer, the HMAS Hobart, was patrolling the Demilitarised Zone (DMZ) near Tiger Island. A USAF F–4 Phantom Fighter–Bomber fired three missiles on unknown aerial targets, suspected to be North Vietnamese M–14 Hound helicopters. The missiles, however, struck HMAS Hobart, killing Ordinary Seaman R.J. Butterworth and Chief Electrician R.H. Hunt and wounding several others. This was, it seemed, a classic case of “friendly fire”, but rumours started filtering out that the F–4 Phantom hadn’t merely mistaken HMAS Hobart for offensive enemy helicopters, and, that unusual, unidentifiable aerial activity was the intended target. Some of those who were there even use the term “UFOs”.

Finding official USAF or RAN records which discuss this event is not too difficult. Finding the term “UFO” in such records is nigh impossible. Luckily, like so many pieces of history, nothing stays hidden for ever.

Recently, while painstakingly scouring through the online archives of America’s huge Defence Technical Information Center (DTIC) holdings, I honed in on a series of USAF publications which specifically discuss the UFO topic in relation to aerial activities during the Vietnam War. It’s no surprise that few unusual records – whether administrative in nature, or, actual reports – would be hiding in Vietnam War–era military documents. In fact, it would be very odd if there wasn’t – especially when one considers the gigantic quantity of material already begrudgingly released by the US government over the last forty years. Just last year, researcher Barry Greenwood discovered that the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) had made available myriad Vietnam War files, including US Army records and thousands of pages of USAF “Combat Air Activities” (CACTA) papers – many of which contained references to UFO’s. The records Greenwood and I are finding are a variety of “Daily Staff Journals”, “Histories”, “Chronologies”, “Mission Reports” and so–called “Lessons Learned” publications. These files have only been declassified recently. We know there is much more which is apparently too sensitive to be released, even after forty years or more.

In the 1960’s the USAF ran “Project CHECO” which produced hundreds of detailed reports examining the USAF’s aerial operations in South East Asia. “CHECO” stands for “Contemporary Historical Examination of Current Operations”. Most of these reports have a standard introduction, which states:
“Project CHECO was established in 1962 to document and analyze air operations in Southeast Asia… …Project CHECO and other US Air Force Historical study programs provided the Air Force with timely and lasting corporate insights into operational, conceptual and doctrinal lessons from the war in SEA.”
The report that mentions the HMAS Hobart is titled Project CHECO South East Asia Report: Air War In The DMZ September 1967 – June 1968. It was produced by the 7th Air Force’s (7AF) Directorate of Tactical Evaluation, Headquarters, Pacific Air Forces (HQ PACAF), and was published on the 1st of August, 1969. Signed off by Col. Warren H. Peterson, the report was originally classified SECRET/AIR FORCE EYES ONLY, the report was only declassified on the 17th of August, 2006. In relation to the HMAS Hobart and UFO’s, on pages forty–five and forty–six it states:
“The several direct hits or near misses on friendly vessels by the Air Force missiles obviously raised the question of what went wrong with target acquisition. The pilots, based on their radar and visual sightings, fired at what they thought were helicopters. The joint service conference on the UFO problem took note of one possibility…”
This passage ends with an endnote, namely, number “128”. The next passage of text is a quote taken directly from raw USAF records, and it states:
“It is important to note that only in the case of the Hobart were the recorded targets in close proximity to ships. It is possible that targets fired on were airborne and that missiles subsequently [were] guided on the stronger radar return from ships in the vicinity.”
(I have imaged, above, top, the two pages that contain this startling text).

It is important to reiterate that the information used by the author of this Project CHECO report was sourced directly from two raw USAF documents. These are listed under endnote 128 at the end of the report. They are titled “20 June Helicopter Conference” and “Memo, Brig Gen George W. McLaughlin, TACC, 7AF to Comdr, 7AF, ‘Air Attacks on Naval Surface Vessels’, 18 Jun 68”. Both are listed with an “(S)” next to them, meaning they were, and probably still are, classified SECRET.

As for the text itself, the first sentence highlights the issue of faulty target acquisition and the accidental hits on HMAS Hobart. The second sentence indicates the pilots of the USAF combat jets had a mix of “radar and visual sightings” and fired on “what they thought were helicopters”. But it is the third sentence where things get interesting. Note that it reads, “The joint service conference on the UFO problem took note of one possibility…”. Clearly stated here is that there was a “conference” on the “UFO problem”, and a “joint services” conference at that. This may mean that all branches of the US armed forces attended, not just components of the USAF. More importantly, the “UFO problem” strongly indicates that there was an ongoing issue with UFO’s in the region; which is what weary UFO researchers have been saying for years.

The next passage of text, quoted from raw administrative records, discusses HMAS Hobart directly. Key here are the sections that read “…only in the case of the Hobart were the recorded targets…” and “It is possible that targets fired on were airborne…”.

Questions need to be raised here. The USAF’s official UFO study, “Project Blue Book”, which closed in 1970, was not being informed of this “UFO problem”. We know this because Project Blue Book files have been publicly available since 1976, and there are comparatively few Vietnam War sourced cases or investigations. As for the “UFOs” themselves, it could be argued that the term “UFO” was a catchphrase for all aerial oddities and unknown aircraft, but ’researchers experience with other caches of military documents often tells us the opposite. “UFOs” are often dealt with as distinct from helicopters, planes, flak, etc. Barry Greenwood’s work last year shows that there the term “UFO” was being used very regularly, including instances where the phrases “UFO landing” and “UFO chase” are used within combat and intelligence assessments.

Other questions must also be asked. Did the “joint service conference” on the “UFO problem” include Royal Australian Navy (RAN) officers? After all, it was an Australian ship that was struck. If so, where are those records? Were any technical studies completed by the USAF’s 7AF science and technology directorates? What about the source documents used in compiling this Project CHECO report, which, I state again, are listed on Page as “20 June Helicopter Conference” and “Memo, Brig Gen George W. McLaughlin, TACC, 7AF to Comdr, 7AF, ‘Air Attacks on Naval Surface Vessels’, 18 Jun 68”? One can only imagine how many records like this must be languishing – still classified – in permanent archives across the continental United States.

There are other overt references to UFO’s amongst the pages of Project CHECO South East Asia Report: Air War In The DMZ September 1967 – June 1968. On Page 47, it is stated:
“Another facet of target identification involved confirming the many visual, radar, and infrared sightings. No ‘hard evidence’ such as photographs or wreckage was obtained. On three successive August nights, RF–4s flew a total of 12 sorties against 34 radar–plotted UFO targets. The photos showed no helicopters despite several runs which, according to the radar, passed directly over the targets. On 28 August, an RF–4C using photo flash cartridges ran controlled tests to photograph a friendly helicopter at night. Of 38 exposed frames made on four passes, only two frames showed the helicopter. The summary of results to the 7AF Command Section said…”
The author then quotes directly from classified USAF records, which reads:
“This test confirms previous opinion by DOCR that chances of photographing one of the UFOs in the DMZ is extremely remote… …Even the two successful exposures required last minute flight correction by a DOCR representative riding in the lead helicopter.”
The page continues with:
“Two special projects were established to observe the UFOs from Con Thien, the highest hill in the eastern DMZ area. The primary mission of project HAVE FEAR did not concern the helicopter reports, but this Air Force Weapons Laboratory project had laser range finders and night observation devices (NOD) that offered some chance of identifying the sightings. HAVE FEAR personnel saw red lights and got video blips. The UFOs usually traveled at speeds from 30 to 80 mph at altitudes from 1,200 to 1,600 feet. After several days of tracking, the red blinking lights would extinguish when under HAVE FEAR surveillance. The project ran from 4–12 August 1968 and resumed from 18–31 August.”
Within the above text there are three endnote listed. Endnote 132 is listed as a document titled Msg, 7AF to COMUSMACV, ‘Summary Report of UFOs in DMZ, 19 Sep 68.”. Endnote 133, is listed as “Memo, Col Michael J. Quirk, DOC, 7AF, ‘Test–Night Photo of Helicopters,’ undated (About 30 Aug 68).”. The final endnote, 134, references a document titled “Msg, Det 1, 620th TCS to 7AF, ‘HAVE FEAR,’ 25 Aug 68; (S/NF) Memo, ‘Intelligence Annex (Enemy Helicopters),’ undated (Late Aug 68).”. This leaves no doubt that the content of the page was gleaned directly from raw, established USAF authority. The page in question is imaged below.

Air Force Records Re UFOs and HMAS Hobart (3)
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So what can we take from this? The fact that USAF attempted to make sense of these elusive “visual, radar, and infrared sightings”, by organising the photographing of them, is something that we scarcely see in the established official record. The statement “…On three successive August nights, RF–4s flew a total of 12 sorties against 34 radar–plotted UFO targets” demonstrates clearly the urgency of the situation. The statement about the “…chances of photographing one of the UFOs in the DMZ is extremely remote…” indicates that a fair degree of discussion must have taken place over the matter. If that is not enough, note the passage of text which states “…two special projects were established to observe the UFOs…”. There is no question that something odd was going on. To use the frowned–upon term “UFO” so readily implies that US forces had few clues as to what they were visually witnessing and plotting on radar systems. Also, as I mentioned at the beginning of this entry, the term “UFO” is utilised as distinct from terms like “hostile aircraft”, “flak”, “rocket barrage”, “formation of planes” and so forth.

Most compelling is the fact that the author of this Project CHECO report was able to reference a classified document which, again I want to highlight, titled Msg, 7AF to COMUSMACV, "Summary Report of UFOs in DMZ," 19 Sep 68. Quite simply, this means that there was a 7th Air Force “Report Of UFOs in the DMZ”. There is most definitely no mention of this is the Project Blue Book files, which were supposed to be the last word on UFO’s by the USAF. It would be amazing if this was the only record of its type. Where are these raw records, and, more importantly, in what volume are they? As I have raised before, there was also a “joint service conference on the UFO problem” at nearly the same time.

These situations – where sensitive UFO–related records are found far outside Project Blue Book – keep coming up all the time. Anyone who clings to the notion that there is nothing more to be found, no more mysteries, no more classified files, is living in the early 1970’s. There always seems to be some recorded fact, some official opinion, or some unseen report that departs massively from the USAF’s public relations stance that UFO’s have never been an issue for national security or something worth seriously considering in future policy or plans.

In Part 2 of this series, I will present another bevy of US military documents, as well as some Australian records, that relate to the UFO matter in Vietnam, including, specifically, the strike on HMAS Hobart. Finally, I have imaged below the front page of Project CHECO South East Asia Report: Air War In The DMZ September 1967 – June 1968 to further establish the provenance of this hitherto classified paperwork.

Project Checo Report - Air War in The DMZ 1967-1968
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Monday, January 11, 2016

Mysterious 'Space Balls' Crash To Earth in Northern Vietnam

'Space Balls' Crash To Earth in Northern Vietnam 1-2-16

By Thuy Hang
Thanh Nien News
1-2-16

     Two "bizarre objects" that apparently fell from space were found in two locations in northern Vietnam on Saturday morning.

At about 6 a.m., an orb fell out of the sky on to remote land in Tuyen Quang Province.

"The sky was clear, suddenly we heard a thunder-like noise," a witness told Thanh Nien. Locals people later found the orb near a stream.

Thursday, June 18, 2015

“Bogey Showed Up On Radar and Was Reported To Have Made ‘Two Landings’”

 
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“Bogey Showed Up On Radar and Was Reported To Have Made ‘Two Landings’”

Let's just forget this ever happened

By Billy Cox
De Void
6-9-15

     The monotone log entries for the 4th Infantry Division’s 14th Battalion units during January 1969 belie the drudgery, confusion and horror endured by U.S. Army grunts in the Central Highlands of South Vietnam. They forge an accountant’s dispassionate version of reality, with platoons scouring the jungles for tunnels and spider holes, following blood trails. The narratives are drab and untextured, with notes like “C Co finds 6 foxholes, water point, A Co finds 8 57 recoilless rifle rounds, 8 81mm rounds; D Co has snakebite” and “B Co still digging, finds 14 NVA bodies, 4 Chicom grenades, claymore, B40 warhead and other gear.” Etc., etc.

But then, on Jan. 13, a week before Nixon was inaugurated, something extraordinary happened, although you’d never know it by reading the index line summary of that day’s events: “B Co has early morning movement, engages. D Co hears voices, engages.” Maybe, given the routine deprivations and futility of the mission, it was regarded as just one more damned weird thing in an unending string of weird things. Anyhow, shortly after 1 a.m., a bogey showed up on radar and was reported to have made “two landings,” then a “touchdown,” and yet another landing more than an hour later. The stenographer included no eyewitness descriptions, and North Vietnam wasn't renowned for its whirlybirds. The clerk listed the thing as a “UFO.”

Given the hostile environs, the beleaguered boys on the ground didn’t ask questions and, according to the log, opened up with five rounds of 105mm Howitzer fire. No details available on accuracy, but nobody was taking any chances. “To Bn from Bde,” the account goes on, “Spooky 23 [AC-47 gunship] will be in vicinity of LZ Laura for any possible engagement of UFO’s. Spooky arrived at 0407.” Wisely, the intruder was gone by time the gunnery platform showed up, but the UFO reappeared on the scopes more than half an hour later and stumped the radar guys for another 15 minutes before disappearing.

At sunrise, stated the entry, “DO Brigade wants 1/14 to check out the area where artillery was employed . . . where UFO’s were fired upon this morning.” The platoon evidently found nothing because the rest the day is saturated with recon reports and accounts of skirmishes. Shortly before midnight, radar operators locked in on another UFO for 10 minutes before it went the way of vapor.

The next day, however on Jan. 14, the line summary wasn’t nearly so circumspect: “C Co hears midnight voices, engages. Several reports of UFO visual sightings, radar sightings, electrical interference from area, headlights. Neg results.” Unfortunately, the main body of the log doesn’t give us much else to work with. The UFO lit up the radar again, around 2:30 a.m., and a “visual sighting” followed. Then came word that “there have been 4 landings at 0093124100 also there is ectrical [sic] interference coming from that area.” Followed by more radar paint and another sighting, a “red light W to E and back, the object is far out, they have no estimation of range.”

Four days later, at 6:30 a.m., the duty officer noted this: “To Bn from Radar Radar sighted a UFO at 9362521625 Bn FDC gave the word to fire on grid. The Bde DO informed us that his higher wants us to conduct a sweep of that area. An aerial observation is requested only.” No follow-ups are given, and there is only one other relevant log reference, on the 19th. That’s when “a patrol left to check out a possibility of a UFO at 0900 to return at 1200” with “negative results except for a possible LZ” with “grass blown down.”

End of chapter. Or is it?

These entries are brought to our attention, once again, by veteran researcher Barry Greenwood, who has been sifting through the National Archives for UFO data as the system digitizes reams of ancient paper. In this case, however, Greenwood discovered the preceding logs online from a 4th ID veterans group. And to reiterate, none of this material –radar contact, orders to fire on UFOs, the discharge of artillery rounds, the deployment of a gunship into the fray – can be found in the Air Force’s Project Blue Book files.

The January 1969 UFO reports had to make the brass at least a little dyspeptic, given what happened in the summer of 1968. That’s when a spasm of UFO activity near the DMZ was initially ascribed to enemy helicopters. In fact, the Associated Press coverage of those encounters (also supplied by Greenwood), was quite detailed with its inaccuracies. In quoting largely South Vietnamese sources, the AP on June 17 reported that artillery and F-4 jet fighters had destroyed perhaps as many as 12 Soviet Mi-4 troop transport choppers, with up to six crashing into the Gulf of Tonkin. This blow-up occurred at practically the same time – amid reports of unknown lights drifting near the DMZ and out to sea – that U.S. jets accidentally bombed the Australian destroyer Hobart on the evening of June 15, killing two and wounding seven more. They struck a U.S. warship as well, and blew a friendly patrol boat out of the water, killing five.

Problem: No instigating helicopter wreckage was ever found. A week after Uncle Sam slammed the wrong targets, Gen. Creighton Abrams, commander of U.S. Forces in Nam, went on record and flatly refuted the enemy helicopter rumor. Even so, troops in the area continued to insist they were seeing the nocturnal helicopters, or at least, as one Marine corporal put it, “six blinking red lights, each about 500 meters apart.” But the mistaken-identity tragedy in the Gulf chilled press coverage of UFOs re-materializing over American forces in the Highlands in January ’69. Then again, there were no calamitous mishaps the second time around, either. Or at least, none that we know of.

You can count on the fog of war to produce stories that don't entirely add up. But maybe this one's bigger than we suspected. Maybe other logs and records will surface as the National Archives presses forward with its data conversions; certainly, official history (Blue Book) is worthless in this case. Maybe veterans' groups can shed more light on this mystery. Again, Barry Greenwood is at uhrhistory@verizon.net

Sunday, June 07, 2015

UFOs Reported Over Saigon During Vietnam War

 
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Counterintelligence Spot Report Re Saigon UFO Sighting (Pg 1) 4-17-1967 Counterintelligence Spot Report Re Saigon UFO Sighting (Pg 2) 4-17-1967

Counterintelligence Spot Report Re Saigon UFO Sighting (Pg 3) 4-17-1967 Hynek Inquiry To Quintanilla Re UFO Sighting Over Saigon 4-17-1967
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Department of The Army
Headquarters,524th Military Intelligence Detachment (CI)
4-17-1967


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Friday, June 05, 2015

'...16 UFO Encounters During The Vietnam War...'


 
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USAF's Combat Air Activities File
The USAF's Combat Air Activities File holds at least 16 UFO cases that never made it into Project Blue Book; nearly 50 years later, they're still classified./CREDIT: Barry Greenwood

The hunt for missing pieces

By Billy Cox
De Void
6-3-15

     The Air Force maintains it shuttered Project Blue Book in 1969 because, among other things, UFOs didn't constitute a national security issue. But we've known that was a snow job since 1979. That's when public-records sleuth Robert Todd excavated the “Bolender memo,” which had been issued a decade earlier. Even while advocating the termination of the USAF’s 22-year-old supposedly transparent data-gathering operation, Brig. Gen. C.H. Bolender was writing through back channels that "reports of unidentified flying objects which could affect national security are made in accordance with JANAP 146 or Air Force Manual 55-11, and are not part of the Blue Book system."

Oh. OK. That doesn't sound the least bit fishy, thanks for playing it straight. We’ll all just shut our brains off and never ask about it again.

Now, Barry Greenwood, co-author of 1984's Clear Intent, the seminal look at federal UFO documents acquired under the Freedom of Information Act, appears to have stumbled across some of the cases Bolender was alluding to. While trolling through a recently digitized National Archives database called Combat Air Activities File (CACTA), Greenwood discovered a spread sheet of 16 UFO encounters during the Vietnam war, mostly from early 1969. To be sure, there was a known history of UFO activity during our dismal hearts-and-minds experiment in Southeast Asia; Greenwood and late writing partner Larry Fawcett made note of the war-zone phenomena in Clear Intent. And as far back as 1973, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chair Gen. George Brown was going on record about it:
“I don’t know whether this story has ever been told or not. They weren’t called UFOs. They were called enemy helicopters. And they were only seen at night and they were only seen in certain places. They were up around the DMZ in the early summer of ‘68. And this resulted in quite a little battle. And during the course of this, an Australian destroyer took a hit and we never found any enemy, we only found ourselves when this had been all sorted out. And this caused some shooting there, and there was no enemy at all involved but we always reacted. Always after dark. The same thing happened up at Pleiku at the highlands in ‘69.”
So, a few weeks ago, as Greenwood noodled through the online nooks and crannies of official memory, he discovered the CACTA stash. Just as Bolender implied, these 1969 cases were categorized as “secret.” The listings offered few details. But in the “Determination” column, investigators inserted conclusions like “UFO,” “SUS[pected] UFO,” and “UFO Chase.” That was surprising. During years of FOIA fishing expeditions for military UFO records, Greenwood assiduously avoided using the dreaded U-word for fear of getting his requests tossed in the screwball bin; now, suddenly, here was the Air Force routinely employing the radioactive acronym. Imagine that. Anyhow, Greenwood cross-checked the CACTA cases against the official Blue Book records and, sure enough, just as Bolender wrote, they were nowhere to be found.

“Most everything we’ve gotten from Vietnam comes from anecdotes and memories,” says Greenwood from his home outside Boston. “This is quite striking because now we have dates, times and locations. It’s a complete reversal of what we’d expect from the Air Force. I can’t imagine more of a national security issue than events occurring in wartime. I’m not in a literal sense suggesting these were spaceships. But what we do know is that this happened, and the records are still classified.”

Furthermore, the 16 cases in question are only from 1967 and 1969. As Greenwood points out, Uncle Sam was invested in Vietnam for a good decade. What else is out there? What are the details behind the summaries of the incidents we now know about? "UFO Chase"? Say what? Greenwood, who published his unexpected findings last month in a limited-distribution newsletter, is filing more FOIAs.

In the meantime, Nam vets, listen up: If you’ve got something to contribute, Barry Greenwood would like to hear from you at uhrhistory@verizon.net

Tuesday, April 21, 2015

UFOs and US Military Were In Contact, Claims Vietnam Vet | VIDEO

Mothership Photographed over Stonehenge

By Jon Austin
www.express.co.uk
4-20-15

     A SENIOR Vietnam vet who claims to have seen several UFOs during his service says there were several confrontations between alien spacecraft and the military during the conflict.

George Filer explains that he was a former Air Force Intelligence Officer required by US authorities to record sightings and information on UFO activity during the 1960s and 70s.

He is the latest in a number of ex-military and NASA veterans to come forward with stories of UFO and alien encounters.

Mr Filer claims while stationed in Vietnam during the War he had “top secret clearance” and gave daily reports to General George S Brown, the deputy commander for air operations during the conflict

Initially his reports consisted of strategic intelligence, but the retired officer claims it often resulted in him logging strange sightings of alien craft and contact between them and US troops and airplanes. . . .

UFOs Confront Soldiers During War

UFOs Confront Soldiers During War

Lee Speigel By Lee Speigel
The Huffington Post
4-19-15

     The public rarely hears about interactions between military personnel and unexplained aircraft -- especially during wartime.

As time goes on, however, UFO stories stuck behind red tape begin to see the light of day. The Vietnam War saw its share of UFO activity in the 1960s.

One close encounter, in 1968, involved the crew of an American patrol boat that reported two glowing circular craft following them in the demilitarized zone that separated North and South Vietnam (see depiction above).

The crew aboard a second patrol boat later reported seeing the UFOs over the first boat and a flash of light, followed by an explosion that completely destroyed the boat. These Vietnam reports included close observation of the unknown aerial craft which appeared to house pilots (see recreation image at the top of this story). . . .

Friday, November 22, 2013

'Sea Monster' Carcass Washes Ashore In Southeast Asia | VIDEO

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'Sea Monster' Carcass Washes Ashore In Southeast Asia

By Weird News
The Huffington Post
11-20-13

      It's big. It's brown. It's definitely dead. But don't be fooled -- it didn't come from the ground, or outer space.

Chances are that this "sea monster," which washed ashore this week in Southeast Asia, are the remains of a whale. According to the Daily Star, that hasn't stopped some people from going "down the alien route and [presuming] it to be a large creature from outer space similar to that in the 1990 film Tremors." . . .

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Counterintelligence Spot Report

Department of The Army
Headquarters,524th Military Intelligence Detachment (CI)
4-17-1967


 
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Friday, June 20, 2008

Lots of Acronyms Tracking UFOs

UFO Crash in Somalia
By Billy Cox
The Herald tribune
6-20-08

Billy COx Last month, the Vietnam New Agency announced that an explosion above Phu Quoc Island had littered the coastline with metallic debris. Residents showed off recovered scraps for the cameras, but no nation or corporation stepped forward to demand it back. No media followups on the analysis.

Last October, a Romanian Mig 21 allegedly got dinged and battered by several UFOs, but the local TV report didn’t hit the West until a few weeks ago. Too bad Romanians don’t speak English.

The point is, there’s a lot of stuff falling from the sky these days, but it usually passes with little more than a blurb and a shrug. Last year, however, a newsflash out of Somalia prompted Frank Warren to do a double take.

According to Shabelle Radio, something crashed outside a town called Buulo Burde in March 2007, and allegedly killed a grazing camel upon impact. The report stated, somewhat awkwardly, that the thing glittered during the day and “in the nighttime it turns lights and speaks a strange language which can’t be understood by the villagers.”

Warren, who runs a UFO Web site in Sacramento [Knowledge is Power], posted the news immediately. What intrigued him most were the government Internet Service Providers tuning into the story: U.S. Central Command, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, Sandia National Laboratories, NASA/Cleveland, the U.S. Army Research Laboratory, and Los Alamos National Laboratory.

“They all stacked up on top of each other within minutes, and I can guarantee you that was no accident,” says Warren. “It may have been something as simple as somebody making a call to a friend and saying, ‘Hey, check this out.’ But who knows.”

Warren says the Somalian mystery crackled along the Internet for about 72 hours. “Then it went black. There was no more news. I tried to track it through local forums asking, ‘Have you heard any more?’ and they said no. I even e-mailed one of the local papers and never heard back.”

Lacking additional data, Warren suspects what slammed into east Africa was a spy satellite, and that it was recovered by rapid-response teams. He hasn’t seen such a concentrated crush of government traffic before or sense. But authority types people are clearly trolling his page for the latest developments on the UFO frontier.

Warren forwarded a sampling of the ISPs scoping over the years:
  • Naval Surface Warfare Center, Fredericksburg, Va.
  • Department Of Veterans Affairs/Little Rock, Ark.

  • Oak Ridge National Laboratory

  • U.S. Patent And Trademark Office, Arlington, Va.

  • The Boeing Company, Everett, Wash.

  • Computer Sciences Corp, Lexington Park, Md.

  • National Archives And Records Administration, Temple Hills, Md.

  • Information Systems, U.S. House Of Representatives, Oxon Hill, Md.

  • U.S. Department Of Transportation, Washington, D.C.

  • Contra Costa County Office Of Education, Oakley Calif.

  • State Of Texas General Services Commission, Bastrop, Tex.

  • City Of Austin, Texas

  • State Of New Jersey

  • Department Of Treasury, Trenton, N.J.
Also:
  • Department of Energy/Western Area Power Administration Fort Collins, Colo.

  • Headquarters 5th Signal Command

  • Naval Construction Training Center, Arlington, Va.

  • State Of New Mexico, Santa Fe

  • State of Alaska, Anchorage

  • Army Information Systems Command, Huachuca City, Ariz.

  • Department of Defense Network Information Center, Vienna, Va.

  • Massachusetts Institute Of Technology

  • RCN Corporation, Baltimore, Md.
Not to mention:
  • U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, Md.

  • NASA/Cleveland

  • 75th Air Base Wing, Hill AFB, Utah

  • U.S. Military Academy, Newburgh, N.Y.

  • U.S. Department of Agriculture, Office Of Operations

  • National Defense University, Accokeek, Md.

  • Joint Services Command And Staff College, Second Assignment, London

  • NASA/Huntsville

  • Hughes Network Systems, Germantown, Md.

  • Arlington County Government, Arlington, Va.

  • Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Palo Alto, Calif.

Oh — and there’s:
  • Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago

  • State Of Delaware, Georgetown, Del.

  • Shaw AFB, South Carolina

  • NASA/Kennedy Space Center

  • Massachusetts Institute Of Technology Lab For Nuclear Science

  • Government Of The Province Of Ontario, Toronto

  • Federal Election Commission, Washington, D.C.

  • State Of New Jersey Department Of Treasury, Trenton

  • Space Science Institute, Boulder. Colo.

  • National Environmental Trust, Annapolis, Md.

  • Science Applications International Corporation, Washington, D.C.

  • Space Science Institute, Boulder, Colo.
P.S.:
  • Department of Defense Network Information Centers in Hugo, Minn.

  • San Diego, and Columbus, Ohio

  • Northrop Grumman Corp, Huntington Beach, Calif.

  • Directorate of Information Management, Fort Meade, Md.

  • NASA/Hampton, Va.

  • Army Information Systems Command, San Antonio

  • 20th Communications Squadron, Sumter, S.C.

  • Defense Medical Systems Support Center, Falls Church, Va.

  • U.S. Dept. Of Justice, Washington, D.C.
P.S.S.:
  • National Aerospace Laboratory, Leeuwarden Friesland

  • Netherlands National Computer Security Center, Baltimore

  • Defense Contract Management Agency, Boston

  • Reseau D'informations Scientifiques Du Quebec (Risq Inc.), Montreal, Quebec

  • NASA/San Jose

  • Andrews AFB, Md.

  • Federal Aviation Administration, Egg Harbor Township, N.J.

  • U.S. Department Of State, Washington, D.C.

  • TRW Space And Defense Sector, Redondo Beach, Calif.

  • NASA/New Orleans

  • National Oceanic And Atmospheric Administration, Seattle

  • Army & Air Force Exchange Service, Virginia Beach.
We’re not done yet:
  • Defense Reutilization And Marketing Service, Battle Creek, Mich.

  • U.S. Army Corps Of Engineers, Vicksburg, Miss.

  • Canadian House Of Commons, Ottawa

  • State Of Minnesota, Minneapolis

  • Lockheed-Martin Corp., Denver

  • Munitions System Division, Eglin AFB

  • Federal Aviation Administration, Curtis Bay, Md.

  • Allied Signal Technical Services, Colorado Springs, Colo.

  • Northrop Grumman Corp, Laurel, Md.

  • The Boeing Company, Chicago

  • Defense Contract Management Agency, Oak Park, Ill.

  • DoD Network Information Center, Tampa.
As well as:
  • National Library Of Medicine, Gaithersburg, Md.

  • Fannie Mae, Washington, D.C.

  • U.S. Geological Survey, Littleton, Colo.

  • Director Of Logistics/Transportation Office, Fort Campbell, Ky.

  • Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Palo Alto, Calif.

  • Public Defender office, Rockville, Md.

  • Army National Guard Bureau, Columbia, S.C.

  • Smithsonian Institution, Washington, D.C.

  • Headquarters U.S. Army Recruiting Command, Fort Knox, Ky.

  • Spacelabs Medical, Issaquah, Wash.

  • Wright-Patterson AFB, Dayton, Ohio

  • United Technologies Research Center, Manchester, Conn.

  • Air National Guard Arlington Virginia United States

  • NASA/Las Cruces

  • U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Washington, D.C.

  • Internal Revenue Service, Washington, D.C.

  • U.S. Bureau Of Indian Affairs, Ariz.

  • Australian Department Of Defence, Adelaide

  • NASA/Greenbelt, Md.
Plus:
  • Air Force Flight Test Center, Anchorage, Alaska

  • NASA/Slidell, La.

  • U.S. Southern Command, Miami

  • U.S. Senate, Sergeant At Arms, Washington, D.C.

  • National Weather Service, Kansas City, Mo.

  • Army Information Systems Command, Fort Knox, Ky.

  • National Archives And Records Administration, Temple Hills, Md.

  • Board Of Police Commissioners, Plano, Tex.

  • Department Of Prime Minister And Cabinet, Sydney, Australia

  • 355th Communications Squadron, Tucson, Ariz.

  • NASA/Glennie, Mich.

  • Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport Board, Irving, Tex.

  • NASA/Houston

  • General Services Administration, Silver Spring, Md.

  • Battelle Memorial Institute, Columbus, Ohio

  • Naval Research Laboratory, Lorton, Va.
De Void has just run out of transitions:
  • Offutt AFB, Nebraska

  • Army Personnel Command, Grovetown, Ga.

  • New Mexico Institute Of Mining And Technology, Socorro, N.M.

  • The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, Calif.

  • National Radio Astronomy Observatory, San Antonio, N.M.

  • North Carolina Research And Education Network, Raleigh, N.C.

  • U.S. Geological Survey, Fairfield, Calif.

  • Texas Railroad Commission, Austin, Tex.

  • USAF Systems Command, Los Angeles

  • V.C. Summer Nuclear Station, Columbia, S.C.

  • Federal Reserve Information Technology, Richmond, Va.

  • 49th Fighter Wing, Holloman AFB, N.M.

  • Naval Research Laboratory, Picayune, Miss.
Is anybody getting any work done?