Showing posts with label Bob Jacobs. Show all posts
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Sunday, May 04, 2025

Big Sur UFO Disclosures: Revealing Private Letters Tell All

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     As many readers will know, I am the author of UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites, which summarizes my extensive research on the topic. I recently stumbled upon a Reddit post relating to the September 1964 Big Sur UFO Incident, involving a US Air Force photographic team that inadvertently filmed a domed-disc UFO disrupting the test flight of a dummy nuclear warhead.

According to former USAF Lieutenant (now Dr.) Bob Jacobs, after the UFO approached and circled the warhead—officially known as a Re-entry Vehicle or RV—it directed four bright beams of light at it, whereupon the warhead began tumbling, eventually falling into
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the Pacific Ocean hundreds of miles short of its target downrange.

At the time, Jacobs headed-up the photographic team tasked with filming dozens of missile test launches at Vandenberg AFB, California, using a high-powered telescope/camera system. Located a hundred or so miles northwest of the base, on a coastal mountaintop near the village of Big Sur, the remote site permitted the launches to be filmed from a side-view.

In his Reddit post, “dingleberryjuice” cited my in-depth research on the case—as summarized in my book’s chapter, “Shot from the Sky”—which fully supports the credibility of Dr. Jacobs’ revelations about the still-classified incident.

The former lieutenant says that he screened the film shortly after it was shot, in the office of Major (later Dr.) Florenze Mansmann, the chief photographic analyst at Vandenberg in 1964, and that two mysterious men in civilian suits—who turned out to be CIA officers—were also in attendance.

Jacobs was astonished by what his team had unknowingly captured on film. Mansmann then dismissed him, saying, “This never happened,” and sternly warning him to never discuss what he had witnessed.

Mansmann is on the record as saying that the CIA officers confiscated the film immediately afterward, designating it Top Secret. According to the retired major, the stunning footage was then “rushed East on a special aircraft”, almost certainly to the CIA’s National Photographic Interpretation Center (NPIC), located in Washington D.C.

At this point, I will mention that, beginning in February 2024, former Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) director Luis Elizondo has repeatedly stated that he had watched the film in question while with AATIP. Importantly, he confirms that it shows exactly what Dr. Jacobs has claimed ever since he wrote about the warhead-shootdown in a magazine article in 1985.

In spite of this definitive revelation, which dingleberryjuice knew about, he also chose to cite in his Reddit post debunking claims made by the late Kingston George—a member of the photographic team at Vandenberg—who says that he too viewed the film in 1964, alleging that it didn’t show a UFO pacing the dummy warhead but, rather, decoy warheads accompanying the real RV. Those were meant to test whether such decoys could help protect US nuclear warheads from being shot down by Soviet anti-missile missiles, should a war ever erupt.

George claims that Jacobs inadvertently mistook the decoys for a UFO.

In his Reddit post, dingleberryjuice asked anyone having documentation relating to the case to post it on the chain, to try to resolve this key question: Did the Big Sur filming incident actually involve a bona fide UFO, or merely misidentified decoy warheads?

Instead of doing that, I have chosen to present my contributions to the debate here, so as to educate a much larger audience than the handful of individuals on Reddit who read and responded to dingleberryjuice’s comments.

While all of the Air Force and CIA records relating to the Big Sur Incident remain highly classified, I nevertheless possess several private letters, mostly from the mid-1980s, written by Dr. Jacobs and Dr. Mansmann in response to inquiries by various researchers. Although not official US government documentation relating to the incident, they importantly provide key, unguarded testimony about the case from the two ex-Air Force officers who, unlike Kingston George, were directly involved in it.

As we will see, that testimony convincingly discredits George’s claim about having been able to watch the film in question “weeks later”—that is, weeks after the screening in Mansmann’s office, which he did not attend—simply because it had already left Vandenberg AFB in the custody of the CIA officers. Consequently, George had to have watched a different film and, therefore, his theory about decoy warheads being mistaken for a UFO by Jacobs and Mansmann has no merit. (Reader, after clicking on the above link, scroll to the last page of George's article, where he says, “Weeks later, my clearance level was increased to allow me to see the films again and analyze them.”)

(Indeed, while George insists that the launch occurred on September 22, 1964, and uses the scheduled decoy-related test on that date to make his case, Jacobs says that the film he saw in Mansmann’s office was actually shot on September 15th, when no decoys were deployed during the flight. Significantly, former high-level government intelligence analyst David Grusch has recently revealed that radar data from that launch, discovered while he was working with the UAP Taskforce, confirms the tracking of a single unknown object—presumably the UFO—flying near the dummy warhead. Given this, he explicitly endorses Dr. Jacobs’ assertion that the September 15th date for the launch is the correct one.)

Jacobs’ and Mansmann’s Letters

Actually, before I present the former USAF officers’ responses to researchers in the 1980s, this first letter was written by Florenze Mansmann on November 15, 1995, and sent to a television producer, Curt Collier. In it, the retired major unequivocally confirms that Bob Jacobs’ public statements about the Big Sur UFO encounter are “all true as presented”.

The second letter was written by Mansmann to researcher Peter Bons on March 8, 1983, in which he states that the filmed craft that circled the dummy warhead, while directing four beams of light at it, was assumed by him to be “extraterrestrial”. Referring to details that he observed with a Loup magnifier, when examining the footage frame-by-frame, Mansmann describes the UFO as a “classic disc, the center seemed to be a raised bubble”. He further says, “At the point of beam release…the object turned like an object required to be in a position to fire from a platform”.

The third letter was written by Mansmann to researcher T. Scott Crain Jr. on May 6, 1987. In it, he elaborates on the circumstances surrounding the screening in his office and speculates that the amazing events captured on film were probably still being kept secret because of the US government’s so-called “Star Wars” research projects then underway, aimed at creating directed-energy beam weapons that could destroy Soviet nuclear warheads in flight.

The fourth letter was written by Dr. Bob Jacobs to Dr. Florenze Mansmann on January 14, 1985, in which he discusses the Big Sur Incident at length, offering his opinion about its meaning—it was “a shot across the bow … of our nuclear silliness ship”—and passionately arguing that the US government should not keep the incident secret forever.

The last letter that I’ll present here, written by Mansmann to researcher Lee Graham on March 10, 1983, confirms that “the original [35mm film] was rushed East on a special aircraft when we released it [to the CIA officers]”. Once again, this statement establishes beyond question that Kingston George could not possibly have viewed the same film at Vandenberg “weeks later” as he claimed, simply because it was long-gone from the base.

(BTW In the first letter, Mansmann states that the only copy of the film—the 16mm version that was screened on a projector in his office—was “confiscated by the two Government Agents and placed in a briefcase before they departed”. In other words, George also could not have viewed, weeks later, that copy of the film either.)

I also possess three more private letters on this topic, written to various individuals by Jacobs or Mansmann in the 1980s, that I will not include in this article. They are basically redundant in terms of what they reveal, relative to the ones that I have presented here.

In conclusion, while Kingston George attempted to discredit what he called “Bob Jacobs’ weird claims” about a UFO shooting down a dummy nuclear warhead in flight in September 1964, the extensive private correspondence of Jacobs and Florenze Mansmann convincingly confirms that the incident, however bizarre and difficult to believe, did in fact occur.

Sunday, February 26, 2023

AARO Interviews 'UFOs and Nukes' Witnesses

Artwork by www.theufochronicles.com, for the article AARO Interviews 'UFOs and Nukes' Witnesses


The Pentagon’s new UAP investigations group takes testimony from US military veterans who encountered UFOs at nuclear weapons sites

     On January 3, 2023, I was contacted by Sean Kirkpatrick, director of the newly-established UAP (UFO) investigations group at the Pentagon—the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO)—that was recently mandated by Congress. An investigator on Capitol Hill, who I will not identify at his request, had read my book, UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites (ad), and brought it to Kirkpatrick’s attention, noting its examination of more than a hundred UFO incursions at nuclear weapons sites during the Cold War era and beyond, as reported by the military veterans who had witnessed the incidents.

Since 1973, I have interviewed 167 of those veterans regarding their experiences. Kirkpatrick asked whether I would be able to contact the individuals with whom I am still in touch, to learn whether they would be willing to testify before AARO staffers. I readily agreed to do so and spent a few days reaching out to them.

A telephone conference was subsequently arranged for January 13th, between Kirkpatrick, two of AARO’s staffers, the Congressional investigator, and myself. I informed the other participants that I had contacted the veterans—mostly former/retired US Air Force personnel—and that eleven had agreed to testify before AARO. At that point, I was asked to prioritize the witnesses, in terms of their importance. Kirkpatrick explained that his group had already been contacted by many other veterans who wished to testify—regarding other types of UFO-related events—and that it would be awhile before AARO could interview all of the eleven I had recommended.

In response, I said that while each of the vets was important, I suggested that Kirkpatrick’s staff first contact former US Air Force ICBM launch officer Bob Salas, who had been on duty during an incident at Malmstrom AFB, Montana, on March 24/25, 1967, when an orange, disc-shaped UFO had briefly hovered over the front gate at the Oscar Flight Launch Control Facility (LCF). The underground Launch Control Center beneath the LCF controlled ten Minuteman-1 missiles.

Seconds after one of Salas’ Security Police guards frantically called down to the launch capsule to report the UFO to him, all ten of the ICBMs dropped offline, one after the other. In other words, they were unlaunchable and it took several hours to repair and retarget them. (Another of my sources, Robert Jamison, had been a missile targeting officer at Malmstrom and had assisted in bringing the Oscar Flight ICBMs back to full functionality. Jamison said that he and his team received a special “UFO briefing” before leaving for the field, instructing them what to do should another UFO appear while they worked.)

Following the incident, Salas and his missile commander, the late Col. Frederick Meiwald, were debriefed by an Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI) agent and required to sign national security non-disclosure agreements that stipulated severe penalties and fines should they violate security.

Salas kept his silence until 1996, when he went public in an article, co-written with researcher Jim Klotz. Years later, on September 27, 2010, Salas and I co-sponsored the UFOs and Nukes press conference in Washington D.C., which was live-streamed by CNN. At that event, he and six other US Air Force veterans who I had interviewed over the years described their involvement in nuclear weapons-related UFO incidents. Their disclosures received extensive, worldwide media coverage.

The second former USAF officer who I recommended to AARO as a high-priority interviewee was Dr. Bob Jacobs, who was involved in an amazing incident at Vandenberg AFB, California, in September 1964. Jacobs had been the photographic instrumentation officer-in-charge of a telescopic camera team tasked with filming missile test launches at the base. To achieve a side-view perspective of events, the telescope site was actually located roughly a hundred miles northwest of VAFB, up the California coast, on a hilltop at Big Sur.

During one such launch, on September 15th, the film crew inadvertently captured a UFO on film, as it approached and circled the missile’s separated dummy nuclear warhead, which was flying downrange over the Pacific Ocean. Suddenly, the UFO—a domed-disc—directed four bright beams of light at the warhead. Seconds after being struck by them, the warhead began tumbling and quickly fell out of sub-orbit hundreds of miles short of its target.

The film of the astonishing incident was soon viewed by Vandenberg’s photo-interpretation officer, Major Florenze J. Mansmann, Lieutenant Jacobs, and two CIA officers who confiscated it and classified the incident Top Secret. Jacobs finally revealed the event in a magazine article in 1982, after which he received numerous anonymous death threats over the telephone. (Skeptics, using demonstrably inaccurate information, have unsuccessfully attempted to debunk this case. The authoritative, documented summary of it appears in my book.)

Anyway, Jacobs testified about the incident to an AARO staffer on February 10, 2023; Salas testified about his 1967 experience at Malmstrom AFB on February 15th.

I have been lecturing about the UFO-Nukes Connection at American colleges and universities since 1981. My opinion is that all of humankind needs know about what has been occurring at the ICBM sites, in both the US and the USSR/Russia, for decades. Those who operate the UFOs may be dropping a “heavy hint” to the nuclear powers to get rid of their nukes. If so, does any government justifiably have the right to suppress the facts indefinitely?

Since 2017, Luis Elizondo, the former director of the Pentagon’s earlier UFO investigations group, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), has repeatedly, publicly referred to UFO/UAP activity at nuclear sites during television and newspaper interviews and podcasts. In one, he said that his Pentagon group had utilized UFOs and Nukes as a resource, and that I had done “a fantastic job” researching the subject.

Additionally, AATIP’s scientific consultant, Dr. Hal Puthoff, has also confirmed in interviews a longstanding and widespread pattern of UFO activity at nuclear sites, as has former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Christopher Mellon.

Moreover, the late US Senator Harry Reid, who had secretly secured funding for AATIP, also publicly discussed the UFO-nukes link during interviews. According to journalist George Knapp, Reid had read my book and was stunned by the testimony of the veterans contained in it. (He no doubt had his own military sources as well). Reid, Elizondo, Mellon and Puthoff became Disclosure advocates in recent years, believing that the US government should be more candid with the American public on the topic of UFOs.

Hopefully, the rest of the veterans who I recommended to AARO will be interviewed soon and, more importantly, their testimony regarding the reality and obvious importance of UFO incursions at nuclear weapons sites will be brought to the attention of Congress.


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Monday, March 16, 2020

The Filming of a UFO Shooting a Beam at an Airborne Missile As Recounted By Former Lt. Robert Jacobs | VIDEO

Former Lt. Robert Jacobs Recounts UFO Shooting Beam at Airborne Missile



     ... Jacobs’ account has been entirely corroborated by another officer, retired Major (later Dr.) Florenze J. Mansmann, who carefully studied the Top Secret film at Vandenberg AFB, California prior to its confiscation by CIA agents. Mansmann said that his frame-by-frame analysis of the footage, using a magnifier, revealed that the UFO—which appeared to the unaided eye as small, white dot—was actually a domed, disc-shaped craft that had pivoted on is vertical axis before emitting each beam of light.
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Thursday, February 27, 2020

Retired FBI Agent Reveals His UFO Experiences, One Involving Missing Time

He was later invited to discuss them at a meeting attended by 
other government employees and higher-ranking military personnel

Retired FBI Agent Reveals His UFO Experiences, One Involving Missing Time



     In November 2019, Dr. Bob Jacobs and I published our book, Confession: Our Hidden Alien Encounters Revealed, in which we divulged our secret status as “experiencers”. Prior to this voluntary outing of ourselves, I was known for my investigations of nuclear weapons-related UFO cases—including incursions at ICBM sites during which the missiles were knocked offline—and Bob was publicly associated with one of the key events, the 1964 Big Sur Incident, when a UFO was inadvertently captured on motion picture film during the test launch of a dummy nuclear warhead. Almost unbelievably, the domed, disc-shaped craft was seen to circle the warhead and
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shoot it down with four beams of light! The film was quickly classified Top Secret and confiscated by two CIA officers.

Following our book’s publication Bob and I have each been contacted by other experiencers who wished to relate their own encounters to us. In early February 2020, I was approached by one such person, a retired FBI agent—whom I have vetted—who agreed to let me publish his account as long as he remained anonymous. He told me:
A “war baby,” I was born in 1942 while my Dad was flying missions against the Japanese in the South Pacific. Upon his return home and during my formative years, he steered me towards the U.S. Air Force—if not as a career, then at least the experience. And so upon completion of high school I enrolled in and eventually graduated from a military institution, was commissioned, and reported for active duty overseas with an Air Force flying unit in 1965.

Still single and while quartered in the base Bachelor Officers Quarters (BOQ) in 1966, I experienced the following: My suite consisted of a living room and a bedroom, connected by a bathroom. The living room and bedroom each had a door opening out into a long second floor hallway of the barracks/dormitory; my suite was approximately in the middle.

While asleep one night, tucked-in beneath my blanket, I awoke to what appeared to be a person standing beside the bed and to my immediate right. Because the room was darkened the image was indistinct. There was no sound and, since my arms were pinned beneath the blanket, I had no option but to stay still. The person/image moved away and out the nearby door. I immediately jumped out of the bed, moved to that door and opened it. There was no one in the hallway, which startled me because the second floor corridor was 50-75 feet long in either direction from my bedroom door.

Fast-forward to 1974. Upon completing four years active duty with the Air Force and returning to the United States following a combat tour in Southeast Asia, I had joined the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), completed new-agent training, and was assigned investigative duties at a large East Coast field office. Now married, but without children, and living in a single family residence just outside Mount Holly, New Jersey (McGuire AFB/Fort Dix were nearby), I experienced the following:

My wife, myself, and another couple had enjoyed a Saturday night dinner at our house and were in the finished basement recreation room area when someone called to our attention a strange light over the tree-line beyond the back yard, visible through the rear sliding glass door. Our friends—I’ll call them “Dave” and “Michelle”—were educated, responsible and professional. He was a former college quarterback and at that time a staff assistant to a highly respected college football coach. She was a schoolteacher, friend and colleague of my wife.

The “light” appeared highly strange and unrecognizable to me as any conventional aircraft and was moving in an erratic, unpredictable manner that alarmed us. Michelle immediately became highly agitated and demanded (to me) “get your gun!” I immediately ran upstairs to the master bedroom, retrieved my issue .357 sidearm, and ran back downstairs to where the other three had been standing at the doorway. However, strangely, I have no recollection as to what happened from that point forward until the following morning when, our friends apparently having returned to their home, my wife and I proceeded with our normal activities. Several weeks later, while dining out with the same couple, I mentioned the strange event, but none of the others could recall anything beyond seeing the light. I was the only one who could recall me leaving the group and returning to the basement armed.

Later, also in 1974, I had reconnected with an Air Force friend, formerly a maintenance officer in my old squadron. A chance meeting on a commuter train brought Jim and his wife Diane to our home, again on a Saturday night, where we had dinner followed by relaxation and conversation in the downstairs recreation room. I subsequently lost touch with Jim until, years later and after my transfer to FBI Headquarters in Washington, D.C., I got a call from him as he was in the capitol area for a business conference. We agreed to meet for lunch and a tour of the nearby Air and Space Museum. Afterward and while walking back across The Mall, I remarked to him that, while extensive and interesting, there was no reference to or displays of [NASA] spacecraft or the UFO phenomenon. He responded, and I’ll never forget, “Like that UFO we saw out in back of your house in New Jersey that night.” I then had and still have absolutely no recollection of the specific event to which he was referring, beyond the fact that he and Diane had actually visited us in Mt Holly.

(RH: The earlier incident involving the agent retrieving his gun clearly qualifies as a missing time event. However, as regards the second incident mentioned above, the agent only says that he could not, at a much later date, recall anything about it. One might argue that this memory lapse was mundane in nature due to the passage of time. That said, in my view it’s likely that it too involved missing time.)

Moving forward into the late 1980s, I was scheduled to travel to Connecticut on Bureau business, and was able to reconnect with our other friends, Dave and Michelle, who had by then relocated from New Jersey to the Hartford area. Upon my arrival and greeting them for dinner at a local restaurant, Michelle reminded me of “the UFO we saw that night” in Mt Holly. Once again, none of us could remember anything else about that event.
I asked the retired agent, “Did you or your wife ever find odd, unidentifiable marks or scars on your bodies at any point in time?” He responded, “No, nothing like that.”

Continuing, he then said something that I found absolutely remarkable:
Around the decade’s turn (1989-91), I was made aware of a meeting of ‘experiencers’, involving persons in government and/or the military who had experienced events involving unexplained lights/strange aircraft, missing time and memory failure. I proceeded to the meeting, held at a facility in Northern Virginia near but not at the Pentagon, which was attended by numerous others, most of whom appeared to be government officials and higher-ranking military officers. I was asked to tell my story—actually, stories—and was thereafter assured that I was “not alone” and that others present at the meeting had had similar if not identical past experiences. I was subsequently provided a list of publications to read to perhaps better understand the phenomena and, as I recall, at the top of that list was Communion by Whitley Strieber.
I then asked, “Who told you about the meeting?” He responded:
I cannot recall how I was advised about the meeting in Northern Virginia but information about it, as well as its location, was probably provided by an FBI associate as I had little or no contact with other government agency personnel during my 15-plus years at FBI Headquarters.

The strange experiences I had were something best left unsaid due to fear of ridicule and of job security concerns, not to mention curtailment of professional advancement. However, by the time of the meeting, I was nearing mandatory retirement age—at that time age 55 for all FBI Special Agents—and had “capped out” salary-wise so I had little to no concern regarding future administrative advancement. I had obviously told a colleague about my encounters and he in turn apparently told someone else who decided that I should attend the meeting.
I then asked, “Were you the only member of the audience to speak about your strange experiences?” He replied:
I do not recall any other specific stories, just that I did relate mine in detail to the group and was told afterward by one or more persons that they had experienced similar events. The purpose of the meeting was obviously to share similar experiences and information, perhaps in part to allay our fears, and by directing our attention to recent publications detailing the phenomena.
This account is stunning! Having interviewed 167 former/retired U.S. Air Force personnel over the years, I’ve never heard anything like it. Those veterans made clear that their commanders—and sometimes Air Force Office of Special Investigations agents—had sternly warned them not to share their nuclear weapons-related UFO encounters with others, even their spouses. Severe penalties were mentioned should a security breach occur.

However, in this case, we have a retired FBI Special Agent stating that he was asked by a colleague, presumably a superior, to address a gathering of government officials and higher-ranking members of the military regarding his strange, suggestive experiences. This implies that, as of the 1989-91 time-frame, some number of high-level persons in the U.S. intelligence community and the military were aware of reports involving the UFO abduction phenomenon—that were obviously considered credible—and had authorized certain presumably self-confessed experiencers within their own organizations to attend a meeting during which the subject would be openly discussed. If this were not enough, information about it—found in various books and articles—would be disseminated to the attendees. As far as I am aware, such an account is unprecedented! Was this gathering a one-off event or did this happen more than once over the years?

Any individual who has had a similar experience who wishes to speak with me about it may contact me at ufohastings@aol.com. Please note that I will ask such persons to provide records substantiating their former U.S. government employment or military service.

Thursday, August 25, 2011

UFOs are Stalking and Intercepting Dummy Nuclear Warheads During Test Flights

Retired U.S. Air Force ICBM Targeting Team Chief Says
The Big Sur Incident Was Not An Isolated Case


UFOs are Stalking and Intercepting Dummy Nuclear Warheads During Test Flights


By Robert Hastings
ufohastings.com
8-23-11


Robert Hastings      Thousands of declassified U.S. government documents and hundreds of military veterans have confirmed the reality of ongoing UFO activity at American nuclear weapons sites. Seven of those veterans participated in my September 27, 2010 press conference in Washington D.C., which CNN streamed live:


UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons SitesI have investigated the UFO-Nukes Connection since 1973 and have interviewed nearly 130 former or retired U.S. military personnel about their experiences at ICBM launch facilities, weapons storage depots, nuclear bomb test sites, and missile test ranges. A summary of their dramatic testimony may be found in my book UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites, which is available only at my website: www.ufohastings.com.

One of the most dramatic cases, known as the Big Sur Incident, involved the inadvertent motion picture filming of a UFO that approached, circled, and—using four beams of light—shot down a dummy nuclear warhead in flight as it raced downrange over the Pacific Ocean to a designated splashdown site near Kwajalein Atoll. Although the exact date is uncertain at this point, because the documents are still classified, the available evidence suggests that this event occurred sometime in September 1964.

The former U.S. Air Force officer in charge of filming the interrupted test flight, former Lt. (now Dr.) Robert M. Jacobs, broke the amazing story in 1982 and has publicly discussed it countless times since then, most recently on the Larry King Live program in July 2008. A video of that interview segment, in which I participated, is seen below:


Jacobs’ account has been entirely corroborated by another officer, retired Major (later Dr.) Florenze J. Mansmann, who carefully studied the Top Secret film at Vandenberg AFB, California prior to its confiscation by CIA agents. Mansmann said that his frame-by-frame analysis of the footage, using a magnifier, revealed that the UFO—which appeared to the unaided eye as small, white dot—was actually a domed, disc-shaped craft that had pivoted on is vertical axis before emitting each beam of light.

Friday, May 08, 2009

Deep Denial or Disinformation?

Big Sur UFO Event - www.theufochronicles.com
Kingston George's Latest Comments
in Skeptical Inquirer on the Big Sur UFO:

Deep Denial or Disinformation?


By Robert Hastings
www.ufohastings.com
© 5-5-09

     The highly-classified Big Sur UFO Incident—according to the former U.S. Air Force officers who publicly revealed it—involved the inadvertent telescopic filming of a UFO that had suddenly appeared near a dummy nuclear warhead in flight. Both men say that the unknown object approached and circled the warhead and used beams of light to shoot it down.

Then-Lieutenant (now Dr.) Robert Jacobs and then-Major (later Dr.) Florenze J. Mansmann, Jr.—both of whom were highly-decorated by the Air Force and eventually became distinguished academicians—are adamant that the nearly unbelievable incident occurred and say that the amazing film was quickly confiscated by the CIA.

In an effort to debunk these dramatic revelations, Kingston A. George, a former civilian colleague of Dr. Jacobs, has written two articles for Skeptical Inquirer magazine, in which he makes demonstrable factual errors, easily-refutable claims, and unfounded, libelous personal attacks on Dr. Jacobs. George claims that Jacobs “concocted” the Big Sur UFO Incident, despite Mansmann’s unequivocal written endorsement of the former lieutenant’s account, in which he says that it is “all true as presented.” [1]

Regardless, George claims that the UFO was actually a group of decoy warheads sailing along near the genuine article. He further claims that the resolution of the telescope’s recording system was so poor that the missile, the separated dummy warhead, and the decoys all appeared as points of light, with no resolvable detail, thus accounting for Jacobs’ misinterpretation of what was actually on the film.

However, retired USAF Major Florenze Mansmann, the officer who actually analyzed the film at Vandenberg AFB in 1964, has written : “The [UFO’s] shape was [a] classic disc. The center seemed to be a raised bubble...the entire lower saucer shape was glowing and seemed to be rotating slowly. At the point of beam release—if it was a beam, it, the object, turned like an object required to be in a position to fire from a platform...but again this could be my assumption from being in aerial combat.” Mansmann said that the craft was assumed to be “extraterrestrial,” given its appearance and amazing performance.[2]

Moreover, the highly-experienced Air Force photo-analyst said that the footage clearly showed that the domed-disc UFO came into camera-frame before shooting beams of light at the dummy warhead; it did not show the release of decoy warheads emerging from the missile’s payload package itself, which then flew along near the warhead, as George claims.

Obviously, there is a wide gulf between Kingston George’s more recent claims about the missile launch in question and the statements of the person the Air Force officially tasked with examining the film footage, frame-by-frame, immediately after the alleged UFO incident.

Interestingly, but not widely known, the individual who twice published George’s attempted debunking of the Big Sur UFO Incident, Skeptical Inquirer magazine editor Kendrick Frazier, worked for over two decades as a Public Relations Specialist for Sandia National Laboratories, which has been involved in manufacturing many of the U.S. government’s nuclear weapons since the 1940s.

Curiously, one has to search diligently to discover this highly-relevant fact, given that the magazine has consistently referred to Frazier only as a “Science Writer” in its Publisher’s Statement, which appears in every issue. Moreover, for some reason, Frazier chose not to mention his day job as a spin-doctor for the U.S. government’s nukes program in his online biography, even though an earlier editorial position with Science News magazine was readily acknowledged by him.[3]

It was left to me to point out all of these rather interesting facts to ufology and the general public in my well-documented Big Sur exposé, “A Shot Across the Bow: Another Look at the Big Sur UFO Incident,” first published in International UFO Reporter in 2006.That article is now posted at my website, www.ufohastings.com. It contains a number of excerpts from 1980s-era correspondence between Jacobs and Mansmann, as well as Mansmann’s letters to various researchers, related to the Big Sur case. One will find in this article links to those letters.

In his latest article in the January/February 2009 issue of Skeptical Inquirer, titled “Buzzing Bee Missile Mythology Flies Again,” Kingston George admits that he has belatedly reviewed some of Jacobs’ and Mansmanns’ letters. Even a cursory examination of the correspondence will reveal why George does not quote from it and attempts to rush past the subject as quickly and superficially as possible, given that the letters thoroughly demolish his own bogus claims about the Big Sur UFO Incident.

Last fall, I forwarded those same letters to debunker Tim Printy—who has naively and uncritically accepted as fact George’s demonstrably flawed 1993 article in Skeptical Inquirer —and urged him to post them on his own website. Thus far, he has failed to do so. I wonder why? Undoubtedly for the same reason George fails to quote from them in his recent article in Skeptical Inquirer.

Instead, Printy added a section to his website’s treatment of the warhead shoot-down incident titled, “Interactions with Robert Hastings concerning the Big Sur Case,” in which he grossly distorts my responses to his questions and criticisms about the Top Secret encounter reported by Jacobs and Mansmann. For all of his preaching about analyzing the ongoing debate objectively, Printy is in reality a sycophant, willing to accept anything George utters, no matter how inaccurate or unfair.

To illustrate Printy’s idea of “objective” analysis, he characterizes Jacobs’ and Mansmann’s many explicit comments about the dramatic UFO incident this way: “Several times [in their letters] Mansmann and Jacobs expressed a strong belief that aliens were visiting the Earth.” Actually, Mr. Printy, photo analyst Mansmann dispassionately describes what he personally observed through a magnifier when evaluating the amazing film frame-by-frame. He calmly reports that a domed-disc UFO rapidly entered the camera frame, circled the warhead, releasing four bright beams of light at it as it did so. Then the object retraced its flight path, disappearing from view, as the stricken warhead also tumbled out of camera frame.

In other words, despite your disingenuous attempt at spin, Mr. Printy, Mansmann’s comments relate to the technical analysis of a motion picture film showing an unknown spacecraft engaged in a shockingly provocative action, and have absolutely nothing to do with his “belief” in aliens. True, given the UFO’s appearance and vastly superior performance—which far surpassed anything the U.S. or Russia has, then or now—Mansmann’s professional assessment was that the craft was “extraterrestrial” and Jacobs, having seen the film himself, agreed with that conclusion. Only then did Jacobs permit himself to speculate about the meaning of the event captured on film. These are hardly blind beliefs; they are instead informed evaluations. In any case, a careful reading of the former officers’ letters will quickly reveal just how deceitful Printy’s comments are on the matter.

For his part, Kingston George first attempted to dismiss the reality of the UFO shoot-down in a 1993 Skeptical Inquirer article titled “The Big Sur UFO: An Identified Flying Object.” However, as my rebuttal conclusively demonstrates, George—whether by incompetence or intent—badly misrepresented Jacobs’ published statements about the Big Sur UFO Incident, thereby unfairly raising questions about the former officer’s understanding of the launch’s technical aspects and, by extension, his credibility and motives. In his more recent article on the case, George has assiduously avoided acknowledging my item-by-item accounting of his misrepresentations. This intellectual dishonesty speaks volumes and George’s participation in the Big Sur debate is frequently punctuated by such lamentable behavior.

Kendrick Frazier, the person who published George’s flawed rebuttal, is guilty of gross editorial incompetence—at the very least—by failing to catch the many factual errors and distortions in the article before releasing it to an unsuspecting public. Was this simply an oversight or something else? As I will explain shortly, based on the available facts, a more disturbing theory can be advanced to explain Frazier’s professional ineptitude.

In any case, Kingston George’s latest attempt to debunk the Big Sur UFO Incident employs the same sleight-of-hand tricks, distortions, and outright falsehoods he trotted out in his first attempt to discredit the case. Either he is in deep denial or he is knowingly participating in a disinformation scheme—aided and abetted by long-time government PR-pro Kendrick Frazier—designed to discredit Drs. Jacobs’ and Mansmann’s statements on the case.

A Brief Review

Let’s go back in time and review the pertinent events as they’ve unfolded. In September 1964, Kingston George was a civilian engineer working for the Air Force on a experimental project designed to film Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) test launches at Vandenberg AFB. To achieve the proper photographic angle, the telescope/camera system was located a hundred or so miles up the California coast, on a hilltop near the town of Big Sur. Lt. Jacobs, who was assigned to the 1369th Photographic Squadron at Vandenberg and held the title Officer-in-Charge of Photo-instrumentation, was the telescope site commander. Major Mansmann had been assigned to Vandenberg AFB’s Office of the Chief Scientist, 1st Strategic Aerospace Division. In his role as photo interpreter, he routinely analyzed the motion picture films of the missile tests, including the dramatic film in question.

In 1982, Dr. Bob Jacobs—by then a college professor—wrote a short article about the Big Sur case. Rejected by OMNI magazine, it was eventually published by the tabloid National Enquirer. While at Vandenberg, Jacobs revealed, he had unexpectedly been ordered to attend a restricted meeting during which one of the missile launch films his team had shot at Big Sur was shown. Much to his amazement, a short segment of the footage captured the dramatic UFO shoot-down of the dummy nuclear warhead.

Jacobs recently told me, “At the time of the filming, no one at the telescope site, including me, was aware of the UFO encounter as it occurred because the image orthicon picture tube being filmed by a 35mm film camera was covered by a black shroud. Moreover, because of the distances involved, we saw nothing unusual with the naked eye.”

According to Jacobs, as he and Major Mansmann, two other Air Force officers, and two men dressed in civilian clothes watched the film in stunned silence, the missile’s dummy nuclear warhead, by then separated from the Atlas missile, was suddenly approached by a small bright object, which rapidly circled the warhead, shooting four distinct beams of light at it, at roughly 90-degree intervals as it maneuvered. Seconds later, the warhead began to tumble and eventually fell into the Pacific Ocean, well short of its intended target downrange.

Meanwhile, the unidentified object had raced out of camera frame. At the time of the incident, the missile, the dummy warhead, and the intruder were all traveling several thousand miles per hour. According to Jacobs, after the film ended Mansmann asked for his interpretation of the event, whereupon Jacobs blurted out, “It looks to me like we got a UFO!” Mansmann, after quickly glancing at the men in civilian clothes, sternly admonished Jacobs, telling him never to repeat those words. He then told Jacobs that the shoot-down had “never happened” and ordered him to leave his office. My full-length article on Big Sur provides much more detail about these events.

About a year after Jacobs’ article was published, UFO investigator Lee Graham located Mansmann—who by then held a Ph.D. in biomedical engineering and was engaged in research at Stanford University—and asked him to comment on Jacobs’ revelations. In response, Mansmann wrote a series of letters to Graham and other interested researchers, in which he very reluctantly confirmed the validity and accuracy of Dr. Jacobs’ published account. He disputed only one thing: Jacobs had written that the UFO incident had occurred in 1965; Mansmann said it was in 1964.[4] I have had copies of those letters in my possession since 1987.

Among other statements to Graham et al, Mansmann wrote that, following his analysis, the incident had been officially classified Top Secret and that the film had been immediately confiscated by the men in civilian clothes whom Mansmann identified as CIA agents. [5] (Mansmann referred to “two” agents in every letter on the subject except this one, when the retired major mistakenly referred to three.)

In late 1984, Graham reacquainted Jacobs with Mansmann whereupon the former lieutenant thanked the retired major for endorsing the accuracy of his published account of the filming of the UFO. In one letter to Mansmann, Jacobs also marveled at the amount of detail provided by the former photo-analyst in his letters to Graham and others, given that Jacobs had not known the results of that analysis at the time. Jacobs speculated that those aboard the UFO had “fired a shot across the bow of our nuclear silliness ship,” by which he meant that the shoot-down of the dummy warhead may have been a “warning” against the U.S. military’s possession and testing of nuclear weapons.[6]

Jacobs’ letter also makes clear that while he did not know the film had been officially classified Top Secret when he publicly revealed its existence in 1982, he nevertheless thought that the American people should know the facts, and did not regret revealing the dramatic UFO encounter in his article.

Mansmann, on the other hand, expressed concern about the national security-related information “falling into the wrong hands” (i.e. the Soviets).[7] According to Lee Graham, he also fretted that the “agency involved” in the film’s confiscation would somehow exact its revenge on him, given that he had voluntarily confirmed Jacobs’ account of the still-highly-classified incident. Thankfully, those fears proved unfounded, probably because the CIA realized that the “cat was out of the bag,” as Jacobs once put it, and that any harassment of the decorated veteran might backfire if Mansmann went to the media and revealed what he knew, thereby publicly reinforcing Jacobs’ account.

In any case, the two ex-Air Force officers’ letters make clear that some 20 years after-the-fact, they were still dumbfounded by, and marveling over, the amazing incident they had witnessed on film in 1964. That correspondence was never intended for publication and I am the first to make it available.

In 1989, Jacobs wrote a lengthier, more detailed article on the Big Sur UFO Incident, which was published by the MUFON UFO Journal.[8] In it, he complained that following his first two articles on Big Sur (the second one had been published by OMNI in 1985) he had been harassed by UFO debunker James Oberg, a leading member of the organization responsible for publishing Skeptical Inquirer, then called the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal (CSICOP), now renamed the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry (CSI).

Another CSICOPer, Philip J. Klass, soon piled on, attacking Dr. Jacobs in a series of rebuking letters. Klass went so far as to contact Jacobs’ department chairman at the University of Maine, to allege that the communications professor was behaving in an inappropriate manner for an academician.

In response, Jacobs circulated a strongly-worded retort, Low Klass: A Rejoinder. At one point, wrote Jacobs, Klass had told him in a letter that if he was uneasy about communicating with the debunker, Klass would provide as references Admiral Bobby R. Inman—the former Director of the National Security Agency, who also held Deputy Director positions at both the Central Intelligence Agency and the Defense Intelligence Agency—and Lt. General Daniel O. Graham, the former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency and former Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency. Klass not only provided Jacobs with their names, but home addresses as well, and told him, “Both men have worked with me and gotten to know me in my efforts for Aviation Week.” [9] Jacobs, viewing this offer as a veiled threat and suspecting that Klass was attempting to set him up for a security violation, consulted an attorney, who told him not to respond directly to the debunker.

Klass, now deceased, was often accused of being a disinformation agent for the U.S. government—a charge he always vehemently denied. And yet, in a private letter to Jacobs, the long-time CSICOP/CSI UFO debunker openly bragged about his high-powered intelligence community friends, presumably because he never thought that Jacobs would actually publish portions of the letter. Oops!

Moreover, James Oberg, another high-profile CSICOP/CSI debunker who has repeatedly attempted to discredit Jacobs’ and Mansmann’s amazing story, also made self-incriminating comments to Jacobs in a letter obviously never meant for public view. Unfortunately for Oberg, Jacobs later published excerpts from that letter as well. Oops!

Oberg, a former USAF officer himself, once did classified work relating to nuclear weapons at the Air Force Weapons Laboratory. While there, in 1970-72, he had also been a “Security Officer” for his immediate group within the lab’s Battle Environments Branch, meaning that he was responsible for monitoring the security procedures used to safeguard the classified documents generated by it.[10] In his letter to Dr. Jacobs, Oberg chastised him, saying, “Since you obviously feel free to discuss top secret UFO data, what would you be willing to say about other top secret aspects of the Atlas warhead which you alluded to briefly…?” [11]

Once a security officer, always a security officer, I guess.

So, to recap, among CSICOP/CSI’s top UFO “skeptics” we have a long-time PR Specialist (Frazier) who worked for the U.S. government’s nuclear weapons program for over two decades; a journalist (Klass) who worked for decades for an intelligence community-friendly publication, Aviation Week, who privately cited as personal references two of the top figures in the NSA and CIA; and a former Air Force officer (Oberg) whose job it was to protect nuclear weapons-related secrets. And, supposedly, all three of these individuals object to Jacobs and Mansmann’s revelations about the Big Sur UFO Incident only because they are “skeptical” that it actually happened.

Hmmmm...

In his latest article in Skeptical Inquirer, Kingston George writes that I have made “snide” comments about members of CSI. I’m guessing that what I’ve just written again here is that to which he is referring. Well, if these highly-relevant facts have been snidely delivered, so be it. Mea culpa.

Now let’s return to a few of Kingston George’s claims and accusations, past and present, regarding Dr. Jacobs’ UFO shoot-down story, which one may find in George’s 1993 and 2009 articles for Skeptical Inquirer.

The Big Sur UFO Story is a Fantasy

First, despite Dr. Mansmann’s unqualified endorsement of Bob Jacobs’ account of having filmed a UFO near a dummy nuclear warhead in flight, Kingston George has characterized Jacobs’ public statements about the Big Sur case as “weird claims” and a “fantasy.”

Is that right, Mr. George?! Although you may be unaware of them, there is a long, documented history of incidents involving UFOs being sighted, and even tracked on radar, as they maneuvered near U.S. rockets and ICBMs during test launches.

For example, in March 1950, a True magazine article written by U.S. Naval Commander Robert B. McLaughlin, a rocket specialist at White Sands Proving Ground, revealed that UFOs had been sighted at the highly secret base during a modified V-2 rocket test. Referring to the incident, McLaughlin wrote,
This day [June 10, 1949] we were firing a Navy upper atmosphere missile. Shortly after its take-off, two small circular objects, guessed to be approximately 20 inches in diameter, appeared from no place and joined the Navy missile on its upward flight. (Similar small disks have also been previously reported as well as the larger types mentioned earlier.)

At about the time the Navy missile was doing well over 2,000 feet per second, the object on the west side passed through the exhaust gases and joined its friend on the east. They then apparently decided the missile was not going fast enough for them. They accelerated, passed the Navy missile and sailed off upward and eastward. [12]

In addition to the striking similarities between this 1949 case and the Big Sur UFO Incident, which occurred some 15 years later, there is another commonality: According to an Office of Special Investigations (OSI) report in the declassified Project Blue Book files, the U.S. Army’s Public Information Officer at White Sands, Captain Edward Detchemendy, tried to suppress UFO sighting reports at the base and actually chastised McLaughlin, on July 6, 1949, after overhearing the U.S. Naval commander discussing a radar tracking of another UFO with an individual who had no “need-to-know” about it. According to veteran UFO researcher Richard Hall, McLaughlin was later punished by the Navy for writing the True article—losing his job at White Sands and being shipped off to sea duty.

So, here we have a military officer familiar with the facts writing a magazine article about a dramatic incident involving UFOs maneuvering close to an ascending rocket during a test launch while, at the same time, the Army’s Public Information Officer at White Sands—the military equivalent of a civilian Public Relations Specialist—was attempting to prevent that story and other UFO sighting reports at the base from reaching the media.

In the Big Sur case, we find something quite similar: Two former military officers confirm that a UFO was captured on film as it circled and shot down a dummy nuclear warhead in flight—one of them writing a detailed magazine article about the incident. In response, a PR Specialist working for the U.S. government’s nuclear weapons program, Kendrick Frazier, publishes an article written by an individual Kingston George who, despite his claims to the contrary, had no involvement whatsoever in the case—according to both of the Air Force officers who were directly involved—in an obvious effort to debunk the facts about the incident earlier released to the public by one of those officers in a popular periodical.

(In a further effort to debunk Bob Jacobs’ revelations, Frazier later included George’s 1993 Skeptical Inquirer article in his own book, The UFO Invasion, in which he also attempted to pooh-pooh, more generally, the idea of a U.S. government cover-up on UFOs. And, last but not least, obviously in response to my own exposé on the Big Sur UFO Incident, now-retired PR Specialist Frazier has published in his magazine George’s latest attempt to debunk the case, even though a comparison between this offering and his earlier effort reveals nothing new in the defense of his position.)

In any case, the UFO incidents—yes, there were several—at White Sands in the late 1940s and early 1950s were not the last to be reported by those involved in military missile tests. In 1967, Major Donald E. Keyhoe (USMC Ret.), Director of the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena, a well-respected UFO research organization, wrote,
“...Consider another leak. In [NICAP’s] files is a photocopy of an official tracking log from Cape Canaveral (now Cape Kennedy), covering operations on January 10, 1961. A Polaris missile was fired that day. According to the log, the missile was on its way up when an ‘unidentifiable flying object’ came in over the range. The UFO was evidently so big and maneuvered so close to the Polaris that automatic tracking radar on the ground, set to follow the Polaris, locked onto the UFO by mistake. The UFO eventually flew out of the radar's ‘sight.’ It took trackers 14 minutes to find the Polaris again. Did you read about this in your [news]paper? Certainly not.” [13]
Regarding this incident, Richard Hall, NICAP’s Assistant Director at the time, recently told me, “I remember the case well and personally handled—and read—the 1/2" thick technical report. [It] was sent to us by a member of the Cape [Canaveral] NICAP Subcommittee, Robert M. Stevens, an engineer.” [14]

So, here we have a UFO that is tracked on radar, as it maneuvers very near an ascending nuclear missile during a test launch, but the facts only become known after they are leaked by someone with access to inside information. This still-classified event occurred only three years before the Big Sur incident and the parallels between the two cases are obvious.

And then there is this case, involving a nuclear missile test launched from Vandenberg AFB, approximately 11 years after the Big Sur UFO Incident: On June 17, 1974, the Hobart (Australia) Mercury carried the following news item, based on a longer article appearing the same day in The New York Times:
HUNTSVILLE, Alabama – Experts at an Army missile base say they are puzzled about strange ‘ghost ships’ picked up by powerful radar scanner in the Pacific during a tracking exercise last summer.

There has been little official comment on what the scientists found during the exercise, but Major Dallas Van Hoose, an Army spokesman, confirmed recently that ‘some unexplained aerial phenomena’ were observed during the exercise last August [1973]. Scientists, many of whom are reluctant to be named in interviews because of general public skepticism over unidentified flying objects, say privately they have been unable to find any explanation for the ‘ghost ships.’

‘We have never seen anything precisely like this before,’ said one ballistic missile defense expert who works for an Army agency here and who is familiar with the advanced radar used to test missiles and warheads. Huntsville houses the Army’s ballistic missile defense systems command which tests in the Kwajelein Atoll region of the Marshall Island Trust Territory held by the U.S.

Last August the Air Force launched a Minuteman ICBM from Vandenberg Air Force base aimed for the Kwajelein missile range which is used by the Army, Air Force, and Navy. The radar experts in the Pacific found they were also tracking an unidentified flying object next to the ICBM’s nose cone. Radar picked up a inverted saucer-shape object to the right and above the descending nose cone and watched it cross the warhead’s trajectory to a point which was below and to-the-left of it before the phantom ship disappeared. The ghost ship was described as being 10-feet high and 40-feet long. Two separate radar systems saw it at the same time which may eliminate the probability that there was a malfunction in one of the radar systems. It was also reported that 3 other identical objects were seen in the vicinity – the same size, shape, and dimensions. One scientist said the data indicated that the phantom ship ‘flew under its own power’ but cold not explain what sort of ‘power’ was involved.

So far none of the experts here believe the ghost ship was a natural phenomenon caused by freak weather conditions or echoes commonly seen on radar screens. [15]
So, apparently, the earlier incident at Vandenberg AFB described by both Jacobs and Mansmann, involving close-proximity UFO activity during an ICBM-related test launch, was not unique. Regarding the unnamed ballistic missile expert’s statement in the above article about never having seen “anything precisely like this before”, given that the 1964 Big Sur incident was immediately classified Top Secret—with only a handful of individuals knowing the facts—it would have been unknown to other military and civilian personnel conducting missile tests a decade later. (For that matter, it would have been unknown to Kingston George at the time it happened, because both Jacobs and Mansmann unequivocally state that he was not present for screening of the Big Sur UFO film prior to its confiscation and removal from the base by CIA agents.)

Researcher Barry Greenwood later reprinted this newspaper story in his co-authored book, Clear Intent (later republished as The UFO Cover-up). He wrote, “When FOIA inquiries were filed with the Army, they denied having any records concerning the sighting. We were referred to Vandenberg AFB, California. Vandenberg responded that ‘in accordance with Air Force manual 12-50 which implements the Federal Records Act, the launch operations records for August 1973 have been destroyed.’ Note that it is not stated that the UFO tracking report was destroyed, only a very general statement is given that ‘launch operations records’ were destroyed. That [records of] such a mysterious event as this would not be kept somewhere for possible future use is incomprehensible. Yet this excuse is offered time and time again to deny access to records…” [16]

In any case, here we have another credible story, published by The New York Times, involving a UFO maneuvering near a dummy nuclear warhead in flight over the Pacific Ocean.

Was that incident also just a “fantasy”, Mr. George? Are U.S. Army Major Van Hoose and the unidentified ballistic missile expert both liars, a claim you make about former/retired U.S. Air Force officers Bob Jacobs and Florenze Mansmann?

Mr. Frazier, are you of the opinion that the story in the New York Times could not have happened as presented and is, therefore, deserving of being debunked in your, ahem, skeptical magazine? If so, I suspect that only those persons who already uncritically accept Skeptical Inquirer’s anti-UFO propaganda as fact would agree with you.

Or, if the story is true, ex-Security Officer Oberg, maybe those who spoke with the media deserve to be chastised, if not prosecuted, for revealing national security-related information. Would you agree? If so, perhaps you could write a strongly-worded letter to the unidentified missile expert who was quoted in the story, just as you did to Dr. Jacobs years ago. I suspect that if you asked, one of Phil Klass’ old character references, the CIA’s former Deputy Director, Admiral Bobby Inman, could find out who that individual was for you. Hell, since Inman was also NSA’s Director, he could probably get you the poor guy’s phone number too!

The Date of the Launch in Question

In both of his articles for Skeptical Inquirer, Kingston George claims that the date of the test launch was September 22, 1964. However, he has never provided any documentation as to how he determined that that date and no other was the actual date of the filmed launch first revealed by Jacobs in 1982. Importantly, George claims that he viewed the film of the same launch mentioned by Jacobs “a few weeks” after it was shot (note this delay—it’s important) and clearly saw the deployed radar-defeating decoy warheads flying near the actual dummy warhead—the very decoys he assumes Jacobs mistook for the UFO.

However, in 1989—some four years before George’s 1993 article in Skeptical Inquirer—Dr. Jacobs, in his MUFON UFO Journal article, stated that his personal log from the series of missile tests suggests that the actual launch date was either September 1st, 2nd, or 15th. That is the article George used to try to debunk Jacobs’ revelations. So, why did George pick September 22nd for the launch in question? More recently, Jacobs has written that his personal log suggests that he was not even at the telescope site on September 22, 1964.[17]

Moreover, in 1985, four years before Jacobs’ MUFON article, retired USAF Major Florenze Mansmann—the person tasked with the photographic analysis of the film showing the UFO—went on-the-record as saying that the launch in question definitely occurred on September 15th.[18] Importantly, this tallies with one of the possible dates mentioned in Jacobs’ log. So why does George keep insisting that it occurred a week later, on the 22nd? Regardless, the point is that he has picked the wrong launch to critique and still refuses to acknowledge that fact!

The date discrepancy aside, there is a another fatal flaw in George’s scenario. According to both Jacobs and Mansmann, George was not present for the screening of the dramatic film in Mansmann’s office—the one that showed the UFO circling the dummy warhead and shooting it down. That restricted screening occurred only a day or two after the launch, according to Jacobs, and Mansmann agrees.

Mansmann said that immediately after the screening, the key frames of the projectable, 16mm copy of the film, as well as the 35mm original, were signed out to the CIA agents present, who then left the base. Mansmann added that the film was “rushed East on a special aircraft when we released it.” [19]

Consequently—and this is the important part—George could not possibly have viewed the same film “a few weeks” after the missile launch, as he claimed in his 1993 article in Skeptical Inquirer, because it had long since left Vandenberg.

When George first tried to debunk Jacobs’ account—by claiming that he had seen the film in question himself, and that it definitely didn’t show a UFO encounter—he was, by his own admission (to me, in January 2003), unaware that a full decade earlier, Mansmann had already confirmed to Lee Graham and other researchers, in writing, that the film had been “rushed East” (to Washington D.C.?). Furthermore, the copy of it—viewed only by Mansmann, Jacobs, two other Air Force officers, and the agents—had also been whisked away right after the screening.

Therefore, when George claimed in his 1993 article that he had seen the same film described by Jacobs, he could not have known that Mansmann had skewered that bogus claim years earlier, long before George even made it. This is undoubtedly why he continues to attack Jacobs’ and Mansmann’s version of events, by insisting that the film in question relates to another missile launch altogether, the one on September 22, 1964.

But Kingston George will never admit that he chose the wrong launch, because his case would collapse. Instead, he has written a second article for Skeptical Inquirer, rehashing his earlier, discredited claims while at the same time ignoring Mansmann’s many, now-posted statements which entirely contradict his own September 22nd launch scenario.

The Distance from the Telescope to the Action

In both of his debunking articles, George claims that the distance between the telescope and the Atlas missile, at the time of warhead-separation, was so great that both objects would have appeared only as points of light, created by a phenomenon known as specular reflection. Moreover, says George, due to the primitive recording system, an image orthicon, those points of light would have been barely visible, the equivalent of “two to three” video scanning lines. Therefore, says George, the recording of the video image onto 35mm film would have contained no visible details relating to the shape of the missile and warhead, or their separation from one another.

Actually, Jacobs has partially substantiated this assertion. In a letter to researcher T. Scott Crain, Jr., dated July 25, 1986, Jacobs wrote that when he viewed the film in Mansmann’s office, the UFO had appeared only as a rapidly-maneuvering “small point of light.” However, he also wrote, “Mansmann, who inspected the film with a magnifier, says that the object was saucer-shaped with a dome on top.” [20]

As noted earlier, here is Major Mansmann’s comment: “The shape was [a] classic disc. The center seemed to be a raised bubble...the entire lower saucer shape was glowing and seemed to be rotating slowly. At the point of beam release—if it was a beam, it, the object, turned like an object required to be in a position to fire from a platform...but again this could be my assumption from being in aerial combat.”

That’s a hell of a lot of detail for two-to-three scanning lines, don’t you think Mr. George? Is Dr. Mansmann lying? Did he “concoct” this description? His widow, with whom I am in communication, would like to know your opinion about all of this, and I would like to read your written response to these questions. Will you now evade this request too, just as you avoided acknowledging my documented list of your previous errors and omissions, as they appeared in your first article on Big Sur?

Regarding the UFO’s dimensions, Mansmann wrote
, “Telescopic photography of that magnitude makes sizes indeterminable. We knew the missile size but could not compare [that with the UFO] since we did not know how far from the missile the ‘object’ was at time of beam release.” [21]

The beam-release to which Mansmann is referring is of course the appearance of the four beams of light the UFO shot at the dummy warhead. In 2006, Jacobs told me that they looked more like lighting bolts than laser beams, although both men used the term “beam” or “beams” in their 1980s-era letters to describe the discharges. In his 1993 article, George misquoted Jacobs, saying that the former lieutenant had called them “laser beams” which can not be seen in the vacuum of space. Actually, Jacobs had speculated that they might have been plasma beams of some type. Plasmas, if they are sufficiently dense, are quite visible in space (e.g. the Aurora Borealis). When I pointed this out to George in my rebuttal to his 1993 article, he responded with a non-sequitur, saying that auroras were not visible at the latitudes where the launch occurred, which was obviously not my point.

Fortunately, despite his later attempts to downplay the issue, Kingston George’s contemporary assessment of the Big Sur telescope’s usefulness is a matter-of-record. Bob Jacobs’ 1989 MUFON UFO Journal article quotes from an official 1964 USAF report written by George, in which he had described the then-experimental telescope/camera system’s capabilities. As the project engineer, George stated that one of the goals of the filming was to record “minute events following propellant depletion—at distances of from 300 to 800 nautical miles.” [22]

As I mention in my own article on Big Sur, the approximate distance from the telescope site to the shoot-down event was no less than 475 nautical miles, a trigonometrically-derived figure, based on now-published data regarding the timing of the separation of dummy warhead (technically referred to as the Re-entry Vehicle or RV) from the Atlas booster after launch. [23]

This data, coupled with the known distance between Vandenberg and Big Sur, and the warhead’s trajectory from Vandenberg AFB to Kwajalein Island, permit one to roughly calculate the distance at which the UFO appeared, given Jacobs’ published remark, in his MUFON UFO Journal article, that “the nosecone, the radar experiment, and the RV were all sailing along” when the UFO first appeared. This means that the RV-separation had to have occurred only moments earlier because all of those components were still closely positioned to one another and were, therefore, all fully in view in the camera frame.

While the exact distance from the telescope to the UFO’s appearance will probably never be known, barring the highly-improbable declassification of information about this case, these known factors permit us to estimate what it was—keeping in mind that the RV was sailing downrange at thousands of miles per hour at the time, rapidly moving away from the telescope even as the UFO was circling it.

In any case, given Kingston George’s 1964 comment that he expected the filming experiment at Big Sur to yield images of “minute events following propellant depletion—at distances of from 300 to 800 nautical miles,” it seems certain that the shoot-down event was indeed visible on film, something Mansmann has unequivocally confirmed, blow-by-blow, frame-by-frame. And remember, it was he, not George, who analyzed the Big Sur film with a magnifier. In short, if Kingston George is not actively engaged in disinformation, he is most certainly in error.

Libelous Attacks

Perhaps most disturbing of all, in his latest article in Skeptical Inquirer, George writes that Bob Jacobs “concocted” the UFO story and, elsewhere, calls it a “fabrication.” This is libelous, given that he is accusing Dr. Jacobs of fraudulently attempting to hoax a non-existent incident. Can George prove these accusations? What evidence would he be able to present in a court of law to support his claims?

When I called George in January 2003, he told me, “I don’t know why [Jacobs] carries on like that. He’s got some other motive than truth, I can guarantee you that!” When I asked George whether he meant that Jacobs was lying about the UFO encounter to make money by publishing the story, he replied, “Either that, or he has totally gone off the edge.” [24]

So, according to Kingston George, Bob Jacobs has either lied about the Big Sur UFO Incident solely to benefit financially, or he is psychologically unstable. Well, Mr. George, all of your baseless, actionable charges have been duly noted by Dr. Jacobs. Given his standing as a tenured academician, with a professional reputation at stake, your accusations may reasonably be construed as attacks on his integrity and/or competence.

So, the question remains: Is Kingston George merely in deep denial or is he knowingly disseminating disinformation—assisted by long-time Sandia Labs PR Specialist Kendrick Frazier—to hide the enormity of the Big Sur case as it relates to U.S. national security and the now well-documented UFO-Nukes Connection? Regardless, as the documentation referenced in this article attests, the September 15, 1964 incident bravely divulged by Drs. Jacobs and Mansmann was certainly not the only occasion when a UFO was observed and/or tracked on radar during one of the U.S. military’s missile launches.

REFERENCES:
1. Florenze Mansmann to Curt Collier, personal communication, November 15, 1995.

2. Florenze Mansmann to Peter Bons, personal communication, March 8, 1983.

3. http://www.annonline.com/interviews/971009/biography.html

4. Florenze Mansmann to Lee Graham, personal communication, January 30, 1983.

5. Florenze Mansmann to T. Scott Crain, Jr., personal communication, May 6, 1987.

6. Robert Jacobs to Florenze Mansmann, personal communication, January 14, 1985.

7. Florenze Mansmann to Lee Graham, personal communication, January 30, 1983.

8. http://www.nicap.org/bigsur2.htm

9. Jacobs, Dr. Robert M. Low Klass: A Rejoinder. Privately-published.

10. http://jamesoberg.com/resumeJournalism.doc

11. http://www.nicap.org/bigsur2.htm

12. http://www.nicap.org/true-mc.htm

13. http://ufologie.net/htm/keyhoeddd.htm

14. Richard Hall to the author, personal communication, February 12, 2009.

15. Hobart (Australia) Mercury, June 17, 1974 (Reprint from the New York Times).

16. Greenwood, Barry and Fawcett, Lawrence. Clear Intent: The Government Cover-up of the UFO Experience, Prentice-Hall Inc., 1984, pp. 69-70.

17. Jacobs, Dr. Robert M. Low Klass: A Rejoinder. Privately-published.

18. OMNI, January 1985, p. 87.

19. Florenze Mansmann to Lee Graham, personal communication, March 10, 1983.
20. Crain, Jr., T. Scott. “UFO Intercepts Rocket”, MUFON UFO Journal, January 1987, pp. 5-6.

21. Florenze Mansmann to Peter Bons, personal communication, March 8, 1983.

22. George, Kingston A. Operations Analysis Staff Study: Preliminary Report on Image Orthicon Photography from Big Sur. October 13, 1964.

23. Walker, Chuck. Atlas: The Ultimate Weapon. Burlington, Ontario, Canada: Collector's Guide Publishing Inc./Apogee Books, 2005, p. 60.

24. Kingston George to the author, telephone conversation, January 2, 2003.
Documents
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Mansmann’s Nov. 15,1995 letter to Curt Collier
Mansmann’s March 8, 1983 letter to Peter Bons
Mansmann's March 8, 1983 Letter to Peter Bons (pg 2)
Mansmann’s January 30, 1983 letter to Lee Graham
Mansmann’s January 30, 1983 letter to Lee Graham (2)
Mansmann’s May 6, 1987 letter to T. Scott Crain (1 Edt)
Mansmann’s May 6, 1987 letter to T. Scott Crain (2)
Jacobs’ January 14, 1985 letter to Mansmann (1)
Jacobs’ January 14, 1985 letter to Mansmann (2)
Jacobs’ January 14, 1985 letter to Mansmann (3)
OMNI magazine article UFO Cover-Up