Showing posts with label Walt Figel. Show all posts
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Thursday, March 02, 2017

UFO Sighting Over Nuclear Missile Silo Still Resonates


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UFO Sighting Over Nuclear Missile Silo Still Resonates

     It’s been nearly 50 years since Robert Salas was a young missileer stationed at Malmstrom Air Force Base and, on a mid-March night in a silo near Roy, became an unwitting witness to history.
By Scott Mansch
Great Falls Tribune
2-26-17

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“They told me about strange lights in the sky,” Robert says. “I thought they were pulling my leg.”

About 10 minutes later the phone rang again.

“This time he was clearly frightened, extremely frightened,” Robert says. “He was looking right at the thing, a glowing red object, oval-shaped and some 40 feet in diameter, and it was hovering above the front gate.”

Friday, November 09, 2012

The Echo and Oscar Flight Incidents: UFOs Disabled American ICBMs

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UFOs Disabled American ICBMs

By Robert Hastings
www.ufohastings.com
October, 2012
Robert Hastings writes: As previously noted, my research is now featured monthly in the MUFON UFO Journal in a column devoted to reports of nukes-related UFO activity. The organization’s administrators have authorized the subsequent publication of those articles here at The UFO Chronicles. My October 2012 contribution appears below:

     On March 16, 1967, ten Minuteman-I nuclear missiles operated by Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana, suddenly malfunctioned one after the other, just as a “large round object” was reported to be hovering “directly over” one of them—according to retired USAF Col. Walter Figel, one of two launch officers on duty at Echo Flight during the incident.

Figel received the startling news while in the flight's underground launch control center, via a two-way radio call from an Air Force security guard posted at the missile silo in question. Although skeptical, then-Lt. Figel dispatched a couple of two-man Security Alert Teams to the field to investigate. They subsequently confirmed the presence of the UFO.

These astounding admissions were audio-taped, with Col. Figel's permission, during three of our telephone conversations—in 2008, 2009 and 2010—in which he discussed the incident in great detail. One may listen to those at:
Telephonic Interview with Colonel Walter Figel (USAF Ret) By Robert Hastings - 1 of 3

Telephonic Interview with Colonel Walter Figel (USAF Ret) By Robert Hastings - 2 of 3

Telephonic Interview with Colonel Walter Figel (USAF Ret) By Robert Hastings - 3 of 3
On the 2008 tape, Figel said that he and his missile commander, then-Capt. Eric Carlson, were debriefed about the UFO encounter back at the base and ordered not to talk about it. In an earlier conversation with me, Carlson himself claimed to have no recollection of a UFO report during the full-flight missile shutdown and further claimed that he recalled no mention of UFOs during the debriefing.

When told of this, Col. Figel was quite incredulous about his former missile commander’s supposed memory lapse, as one may hear on tape. He said that Carlson “was sitting two feet away” from him when Figel took the frantic call from the guard about the hovering UFO. Figel also said that Carlson—as the senior officer in the two-man Missile Combat Crew—actively participated in the debriefing, again while sitting next to him.

Col. Figel had first gone on-the-record about the incident during a 1996 audio-taped conversation with former USAF Capt. Robert Salas, the Minuteman missile launch officer who co-sponsored my September 27, 2010 “UFOs and Nukes” press conference in Washington D.C. That event was streamed live by CNN and the full-length video is at:



In spite of these very important, tape-recorded admissions by Col. Figel to Salas and me, Eric Carlson’s son, James, has spent the past several years posting comments at countless blogs, claiming that his father is being truthful when he says that no UFOs were present at Echo Flight during the shutdown incident. However, James further claims—falsely—that Col. Figel insists the on-site guard was only joking when he reported a UFO hovering above the silo. In reality, Figel clearly told me on tape that the individual in question “was serious but I wasn’t taking him seriously.”

Over time, the younger Carlson has told a great many other falsehoods about the incident. During Figel’s 2009 taped conversation with me, the obviously frustrated colonel said that James’ claims are “off-base” and that “he has an ax to grind.” True to form, James ignores these documented statements and alleges that I have misrepresented Figel’s remarks, going so far as to charge that I have doctored the tapes.

In response, I have repeatedly stated online that if James will pay the costs involved, I will have the tapes scientifically analyzed, to prove that they are unaltered. Not surprisingly, Carlson has ignored this offer. Instead, he continues to claim that I am “a liar and a fraud” because I persist in publicizing Col. Figel’s important revelations, which contradict his father’s own claims.

Importantly, other persons have substantiated Col. Figel’s account of a UFO-presence during the Echo Flight incident. The late Robert J. Kaminski, who headed the Boeing Company missile engineering team that investigated the case, says he was told by a Boeing-Air Force liaison that UFOs had indeed been sighted in the vicinity of the flight’s launch silos at the time of the missile malfunctions. Kaminski unequivocally states that his team could find no prosaic cause for the failures.

Kaminski further says that the Air Force interrupted his investigation in mid-stream and ordered him not to file a report on the full-flight shutdown—an unprecedented and still-unexplained development. One may read Kaminski discussing all of this in a 1997 letter to researcher Jim Klotz in the article titled “The Echo/Oscar Witch Hunt”.

Additionally, a former Minuteman Electro-Mechanical Technician, Henry Barlow, has stated during two interviews with me—one audiotaped, the other videotaped—that while bringing some of the Echo Flight missiles back online he had been informed that UFOs caused the malfunctions.

Barlow further said that he and other members of the 341st Missile Maintenance Squadron had observed UFOs on several occasions, both prior to and following the Echo incident, while working in Malmstrom’s missile field during 1966-67. Excerpts from the audio interview appear in my 2008 book UFOs and Nukes; portions of the video interview will be included in a documentary film I am currently producing, due to be released in 2014.

The Oscar Flight Incident

Shortly after the Echo event, a second large-scale, UFO-related ICBM shutdown incident occurred at another of Malmstrom’s missile flights, Oscar, according to former Capt. Robert Salas and now-retired Col. Frederick Meiwald, who were the launch officers on duty when it happened.

A third former officer, Capt. Robert Jamison, says he was involved in re-targeting those missiles after they had malfunctioned and had been briefed beforehand, together with several other targeting team members, that “UFOs had been messing things up.” He also provides information which strongly suggests that the incident occurred eight days after Echo, on the evening of March 24, 1967. Jamison participated in my CNN-streamed press conference and his testimony may be viewed in the video referenced above.

With the passage of time, Bob Salas had forgotten the alphabetical designation of the missile flight where his experience occurred. After reading about the ICBM-shutdown incident at Echo Flight in Timothy Good's 1989 book Above Top Secret: The Worldwide UFO Cover-Up, Salas assumed that the event described was the one he had personally witnessed. However, a subsequent investigation by researcher Jim Klotz revealed the actual identities of the launch officers who had been at Echo—Walter Figel and Eric Carlson—thereby ruling out that possibility.

Then, after Klotz secured an Air Force document via the Freedom of Information Act which stated that “rumors” of UFO sightings at November Flight had subsequently proved to be untrue, Salas wondered if he had been at that flight instead. This seemed reasonable because Klotz also interviewed the author of the document, former USAF historian David Gamble, who revealed that his superiors had later altered his own comments about the sightings, inserting the written claim that they had been “disproved”, something Gamble implied amounted to censorship.

In any case, in the summer of 1996, Salas finally located his former missile commander, Frederick Meiwald, who told him that the pair had actually been at Oscar Flight when their missiles went down. A fuller discussion of the UFO-related events at Oscar may be found in the “Witch Hunt” article referenced above, but the basic facts follow here:

Then-Lt. Salas was at his missile-status console in the underground launch capsule when he received a call from a guard at ground-level, saying that a strange, rapidly-moving light had been sighted in the sky. Salas told the guard to monitor the situation and to report back if there were any noteworthy developments. A short time later, the guard called again and screamed into the phone that a large, glowing, orange-colored, oval-shaped object had suddenly appeared and was silently hovering over the Oscar Launch Control Facility.

Salas quickly woke then-Capt. Meiwald, who was on his rest break, but before he could tell him about the phone calls with the topside guard, they were both shocked to see multiple warning lights indicating the missiles were dropping-off alert status—that is, malfunctioning.

During a tape-recorded telephone conversation in August 1996, Meiwald, by then a retired colonel, told Salas that shortly after the missiles failed—he remembered six-to-eight, whereas Salas recalls all ten going offline—a two-man security team had been ordered into the field in response to an intrusion alarm at one of the silos.

Salas had forgotten that development over the years so Meiwald provided the details, saying that when the team approached the missile site, they saw a UFO hovering above it. Badly frightened, the two men raced back to the launch control facility. Apparently, one of the guards was so shaken by the experience that he couldn’t continue his shift and had to be taken directly to the Malmstrom AFB hospital.

Col. Meiwald subsequently elaborated on the events at Oscar in a letter to Salas. That item, as well as the taped 1996 conversation referenced above, may be accessed via my “Witch Hunt” article. The recording of my own May 6, 2011 phone conversation with Meiwald is presented in another article, “Echo Flight UFO Incident Not Unique”, also available at my website.

In response to James Carlson’s many unfounded charges against Salas—he continues to call the former captain “a liar and a fraud” in hundreds of blog posts—Col. Meiwald unequivocally told me that Salas had presented the events at Oscar “very accurately” during his public statements about the incident in recent years. Meiwald said that the UFO sighted by the security team had been described as a “bright, flying object at low-level” and also confirmed, just as Salas has said, that the two launch officers were debriefed by an agent from the Air Force Office of Special Investigations (OSI) and required to sign national security non-disclosure statements.

While Bob Salas has been quite open regarding his belief that the American people should be told, at long last, the truth about UFO activity at nuclear missile sites—a philosophic position that I obviously share—both Col. Meiwald and Col. Figel have been far less proactive in their public discussion of the two ICBM-shutdown events.

Indeed, if one listens to the tapes of my conversations with them, it’s apparent that I had to press them repeatedly to provide the details, which they did only reluctantly. Nevertheless, their taped admissions are now part of the public record and provide important anecdotal evidence for the reality of the UFO-Nukes Connection.

As I was writing this article, I received an email from Bob Salas, saying, “I just spoke with Eric Carlson. He told me that he did not recall having been told about ‘credible’ UFO reports during the Echo shutdown. I asked him how he could be sure they were credible or not and he could not answer that.”

This comment by Carlson is only the latest example of his disingenuous statements regarding the incident and completely ignores the fact that—according to Col. Figel—both officers were thoroughly questioned about the UFO sighting by their squadron commander, thereby confirming that he considered it to be credible. Moreover, Figel told me he was later flown to Strategic Air Command Headquarters at Offutt AFB, where he was further questioned about it.

As far as I am aware, the most recent example of a reported UFO-presence during a large-scale ICBM-malfunction incident occurred at F.E. Warren AFB, Wyoming, on October 23, 2010. See my article on that event, titled “Huge UFO Sighted Near Nuclear Missiles During October 2010 Launch System Disruption.”

Monday, November 05, 2012

UFOs Reported Near Malmstrom AFB’s Nuclear Missile Sites in September 2012: Two V-Shaped Craft Sighted Southeast of Oscar Flight Launch Facility O-03

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UFOs Over Nuke Missile Fields Montana

By Robert Hastings
www.ufohastings.com
© 11-3-12

     On September 19th, at 10:19 pm., the Fergus County, Montana Sheriff’s Office received a call from an individual reporting a strange sight in the sky. The key passage in the official log entry reads:
CENTRAL MONTANA DISPATCH ADVISED OF A CALL FROM JENNIFER STYER WHO REPORTED SEEING 2 V-SHAPED OBJECTS WITH ORANGE LIGHTS FLYING VERY LOW NORTHWEST OF ROY. JENNIFER WANTED TO KNOW IF THEY MIGHT BE AIR FORCE AIRCRAFT...

DISPATCH CALLED MALMSTROM WHO STATED THAT THEY HAVE NO AIRCRAFT OUT BY ROY TONIGHT...
The small town of Roy is approximately one mile west-northwest of Malmstrom’s Oscar-01 Missile Alert Facility (MAF), and underground Launch Control Center, where two officers electronically monitor ten Minuteman-III nuclear missiles—scattered around the surrounding countryside in subterranean silos—waiting to unleash them, if ever ordered to do so by the President of the United States.

I first learned of recent UFO sightings in north-central Montana when two of them, occurring on September 21st, were posted at the National UFO Reporting Center’s website three days later. Because I was scheduled to lecture at the University of Montana on October 9th, I decided to visit the region where the sightings occurred immediately thereafter, to see what might be uncovered. That scouting trip led to the Fergus County Sheriff’s Office, where I found the record of Jennifer Styer’s call in their blotter:

Fergus County Sheriff Police Blotter & Record of Jennifer Styer's Call re Her UFO Sighting
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I then drove to Roy and met with her and some of her neighbors—townspeople and ranchers—who had seen UFOs over the years. Significantly, a number of them told me that Air Force activity—both security patrols and the presence of missile maintenance vans—has dramatically increased in recent weeks.

These persons have lived in or near the town for decades; they know what is routine and what is not. Apparently, this heightened activity began around the time of Styer’s sighting of two V-shaped craft flying toward her from the direction of Oscar Flight’s O-03 missile site, some four miles distant.

Styer told me, “The sheriff’s record is inaccurate. I guess they misunderstood my description of the objects’ location. It was about 9:45 at night. I was on Antelope Lane, driving north, when I saw them. My house is 13 miles east of Roy but one of the missile [silos] is northwest of us, not too far away. The two objects were northwest of me, not the town, as it said in the log. They came out of nowhere, so fast! They were right on top of me before I noticed them. But they were big! Each one was a V-shape and had orange lights on each [leg]. I don’t remember how many lights because it happened so quickly. [The objects] were very close to each other, moving from the northwest to the southeast. There was no noise that I could hear.”

I asked Styer to compare the apparent length of each object to a 12-inch ruler held at arm’s length. She thought for a few moments and responded, “Oh, probably a little longer than that. They were large and seemed to be very close to the ground. Three other people south of me, on Valentine Road, saw them too.” I will discuss that second sighting, which I discovered actually occurred two nights later, on September 21st, toward the end of this article.

A number of people in and around Roy told me that Air Force jet fighters had begun to appear near the town, dropping flares, in recent weeks. When I mentioned this to Jennifer Styer, she said, “What I saw were definitely not flares. The lights were not falling to the ground, or burning out like a flare. There was no airplane above me. I would have heard it if there was. These lights were attached to objects that were silent, moving in a straight line, and definitely V-shaped.”

A History of UFO Activity at Oscar Flight

If the name Oscar Flight seems familiar, it’s undoubtedly due to the now-famous, UFO-related incident that occurred there on March 24, 1967. According to former USAF Captain Robert Salas—one of two Missile Combat Crew members on duty at the time—a UFO was reported to be hovering above Oscar-01, just as most or all of the flight’s ICBMs malfunctioned.

Then-Lt. Salas was at his missile-status console in the underground capsule when he received a call from a guard at ground level, saying that a strange, rapidly-moving light had been sighted in the sky. Salas told him to monitor the situation and to report back if there were any noteworthy developments. A short time later, the guard called again and screamed into the phone that a large, glowing, reddish-orange, oval-shaped object had suddenly appeared and was silently hovering over the facility’s security fence gate.

Salas quickly woke up the other officer, then-Capt. Frederick Meiwald, who was on his rest break, but before he could tell him about the phone calls with the topside guard, they were both shocked to see multiple warning lights on their consoles indicating that the missiles were dropping off alert status, that is, becoming unavailable for launch. It apparently took nearly a full day to restore them to operational status, requiring the replacement of components relating to the missiles’ guidance-and-control systems.

Salas and Meiwald later confirmed being debriefed by an agent from the Air Force Office of Special Investigations (OSI) and having to sign national security non-disclosure statements, promising not to reveal the incident. Each kept his silence until the mid-1990s.

During a tape-recorded telephone conversation in August 1996, Meiwald, by then a retired colonel, told Salas that shortly after the missiles failed—he remembered six to eight, whereas Salas recalls all ten going offline—a two-man Security Alert Team had been ordered into the field in response to an intrusion alarm at one of the Oscar silos.

Salas had forgotten that development over the years so Meiwald provided the details, saying that when the team approached the missile site, they saw a UFO hovering above it. (Meiwald later told me that it had been described as a “bright, flying object at low-level.”) Badly frightened, the two men raced back to the launch control facility. Apparently, one of the guards was so shaken by the experience that he couldn’t continue his shift and had to be taken directly to the Malmstrom AFB hospital.

Although Meiwald was sleeping when Salas took the two calls from the topside guard and, therefore, cannot personally corroborate the discussions that ensued, he has elaborated on the subsequent UFO-related events at the missile silo in a letter to Salas.

Additionally, during my own May 6, 2011 tape-recorded interview with Meiwald, he again confirmed a UFO-presence during the missile-shutdown incident and said that Salas has reported on it “very accurately.”

Furthermore, other Air Force veterans have spoken of the events reported by Salas and Meiwald. One Minuteman missile Combat Targeting Team officer, former Captain Robert Jamison, has stated that he was involved in bringing some of Oscar Flight’s ICBMs back online. In an affidavit, Jamison says that all of the targeting teams, including his, were explicitly told by their commander “that there had been some UFO activity that had been messing things up” at Oscar.

According to Jamison, specific instructions had been given to the teams. “They briefed us on what to do,” he said, “If we saw a UFO while on the road, we were to report it. If we were at the site and saw a UFO, we were supposed to get into the silo and close the personnel hatch. The guard accompanying us would remain outside and report developments to the base via radio.”

In other words, those conducting the briefing were apparently convinced of a UFO connection with the missile malfunctions, and had formulated a plan of action which would provide intelligence about any additional sightings, as well as enhance the safety of the dispatched targeting teams as they worked to restore the missiles to operational status.

Jamison also provides the date for the incident, saying that it occurred the same night as the well-known Belt UFO sighting, when a glowing, disc-shaped craft reportedly landed in a deep ravine near the town of Belt, Montana, on March 24, 1967—something reported in the local media the next day. Jamison says that he listened to radio chatter about that event while he waited at Malmstrom’s missile maintenance hangar for authorization to proceed to Oscar Flight to retarget the stricken ICBMs.

Moreover, according to retired Col. Walter Figel, another UFO had been reported to him eight days earlier—on March 16th—at nearby Echo Flight, just as all 10 of those missiles malfunctioned. Similar to what Bob Salas experienced at Oscar, Figel had been on duty in Echo’s underground Launch Control Center when he received a call from a guard posted at one of the flight’s silos, saying that “a large, round object” was hovering directly over it. “He was serious but I wasn’t taking him seriously,” Figel told me.

Nevertheless, a skeptical Figel dispatched two Security Alert Teams to the field to confirm the report; both did, according to tape-recorded statements he made to Salas during a 1996 telephone conversation; in a taped interview with me in 2008, Col. Figel said that “at least one” team saw the UFO. Both interviews may be heard here at TUFOC and at my website.

In short, the UFO-related, missile-shutdown incidents at Malmstrom’s Echo and Oscar Flights, in March 1967, are now credibly established. Considering all of this, the September 19, 2012 UFO sighting by civilian Jennifer Styer, southeast of Oscar’s O-03 missile site, is hardly surprising. Indeed, declassified documents and ex-USAF witness testimony confirming intermittent-but-ongoing UFO activity at Malmstrom’s and other bases’ missile sites are accessible here at TUFOC and at my website.

Whether or not any of Oscar’s ten missiles have been adversely impacted by UFO incursions in recent weeks remains unknown, at least for the moment. Unless some knowledgeable inside source at Malmstrom comes forward, we may never know the answer, one way or the other. (And, by the way, I am not asking any active duty personnel do that, given the almost-certain repercussions relating to their military careers.)

That said, the abrupt, apparently dramatic increase in the number of missile maintenance vans operating in the area, together with Air Force security vehicles—as reported to me by several persons living in or near Roy—strongly suggests that something highly unusual has happened there on one or more occasions during the past month.

Other Recent Sightings within Malmstrom’s Missile Field

The two sighting reports posted at the National UFO Reporting Center’s website, which prompted me to visit north central Montana, are briefly summarized below. (The time that each occurred has been more accurately established since the initial report.)

Two days after Styer’s sighting, on September 21st, shortly after 8:30 p.m. MDT, Dale Uhler and his wife were driving west on U.S. Highway 87, in Judith Basin County. Approximately one mile west of the town of Moccasin, they turned north onto North Star Road (CR 314). At the intersection of Fieldstone Road (CR 306), about two miles north of the highway, they noticed a light in the sky that appeared yellow-orange and bar-shaped. It then morphed into three individual orange lights. The sighting lasted approximately 20 seconds, at which point the display disappeared. The sky was clear and stars were visible. The object was 30 to 35 degrees above the horizon.

Uhler said the “elongated bar-shape” object was horizontally-oriented and appeared as wide as a bar of soap held at arm’s length. “I can’t explain what it was, just that we saw it,” he said, “It was an unexplainable, illuminated object. The purpose of my posting was to see if by chance someone saw something similar.” Uhler told me that the unidentified object/lights were “north-northeast” of his position and possibly east of the town of Denton, some 18 miles away.

The exact position of the object will probably remain uncertain. However, if Uhler’s estimate of its distance from him is reasonably accurate, it would have been in the general vicinity of Delta Flight, whose Missile Alert Facility D-01 is approximately five miles northeast of Denton. The flight’s perimeter extends some 10 miles both north and south of the MAF, therefore, even if the object was not in its immediate vicinity, it would have nevertheless been relatively near one or more of the Delta Launch Facilities, with D-11 or D-02 the likeliest sites, given that their locations were north-northeast of Uhler’s position.

Another witness, Ted Meinzen, apparently sighted the same object. However, he and two friends had also observed another strange light the previous night. He told me,
“What I saw occurred two nights in a row. The first night, [September 20th], it was a single orange light. The sky was dark and the light just appeared as a stationary glow. It did not move or make a sound. It was there for approximately 30 seconds, then it faded away like it burned out, or someone had used a dimmer switch. We were about 20-30 miles east of Highway 191 on a dirt road called Old Musselshell Trail, on the edge of the Charles M. Russell Wildlife Refuge. We were looking to the west and slightly north from our location.

The second night, the lights appeared in exactly the same spot. The difference being that this time there were several of them. We were sitting in the same spot because we had to return to that location to get cellular service. Anyhow, we were sitting in my truck, so all three of us could make our nightly phone calls home.

I was the first to see the light. I told everyone to look and we watched as a second light appeared next to the first and at the same height. A third appeared and then a fourth. At the time the fourth appeared, the first disappeared, followed by the second, third and fourth. It happened relatively quickly and this is how I remember it, but my friend, ----, may remember it slightly differently—the order the lights went out. My other friend, ----, was on the phone; he saw the lights but was not paying full attention.

There was no sound and no movement on either night. The lights appeared to be far away but I cannot tell you the exact distance. I think they were close to 35 degrees above the horizon. ---- told me the time was 8:37 the first night and 8:47 on the second. He looked at the clock on the dash of the truck.”
The time of the sighting on the second night, September 21st, was some five-to-ten minutes after Dale Uhler saw the elongated-bar object with orange lights from a different vantage point, which then disappeared, leaving only the lights. Meinzen’s description of the lights rules out military flares, which remain illuminated for 3-4 minutes, glowing erratically before eventually sputtering out, while slowly falling toward the ground.

It should also be noted that if Meinzen and his companions were indeed looking west or west-northwest when they observed the mysterious spectacle, the lights would have been further north than the area comprising Delta Flight—which is where Dale Uhler estimated them to be some ten minutes earlier—and, instead, possibly within the Echo Flight footprint.

Fortunately, I later spoke with a third witness, --- --------, who was much closer to the lights that night. His name had been given to me by Jennifer Styer, who heard about his sighting and, assuming that it had occurred at the same time as hers, on September 19th, provided his phone number.

The witness, and two others, were some 20 miles east of Roy. He told me, “It was on September 21st, at around 8-to-8:30 at night. I had been helping the ----------- family move hay and marked that date on my calendar. Actually, ------ saw the lights first and pointed them out to us. They were round like headlights and orange-colored, all in a row, maybe 200 feet in the sky. Then they went out, all at the same time. Then, a few seconds later, they appeared again, higher up, all in a row. Then they went out for good. They were probably a mile straight north of us. We didn’t hear any sounds.” This witness told me that no craft, per se, could be seen; just the lights.

This sighting fits nicely with the other two reports, from Dale Uhler and Ted Meinzen, but may have occurred closer to 8:00 p.m. I say this because if the lights were in fact only a mile or so north of the witnesses, positioned on Valentine Road, some 20 miles east of Roy, they would have been much further east than the object/lights sighted by Uhler to his north-northeast, just after 8:30. Similarly, the orange lights seen by Meinzen and his friends, at 8:47, were described as being west to west-northwest of their position, which would place them much further north than the location reported by the witness located east of Roy.

So, the unidentified object with orange lights was apparently moving around over time. Moreover, it should be obvious that Uhler’s description of the object’s position north-northeast of him does not provide any information as to how far away it was, just as Meinzen had difficulty estimating the distance to the lights he saw to the west-northwest.

The third witness, who was much closer to the lights, was confident that they were only a short distance north of him. The map below will clarify the situation. Lines-of-sight from the witnesses’ positions are indicated but not the distances to the observed lights:

Witness Map Overlayed with Missile Map (Revised 1))
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Summing up the situation, based on the available evidence, all one can say with certainty is that on September 21, 2012, between 8:00 and 9:00 p.m., at least three widely-separated groups of witnesses observed a bar-shaped object with orange lights (in the Uhler sighting) or a group of orange lights arranged in a row (in the other two) whose locations-over-time placed them directly above, or very near to, Malmstrom’s Delta, Echo, and Oscar Flights.

Additionally, as noted on the map, yet another witness, Shelby Buck, may have observed unusual aerial activity later that same night. Buck, who lives in the town of Geraldine, told me, “I think the date was September 21st, but I am not absolutely positive about that. It was around 10 p.m.” She had been helping her father move a tractor while seeding winter wheat on his farm four-and-a-half miles north of the town. After-dark agricultural activities are not uncommon, as any farmer will tell you. Suddenly, Buck saw a meteor-like “line of fire in the sky” due east of her, moving rapidly in a northerly direction, parallel with the horizon. It then faded out.

A few seconds later, another flaming streak appeared, also moving to the north, level with the ground. It was somewhat smaller than the first one and also faded out. Approximately 10 minutes after that, two Air Force jet fighters suddenly came into view, north of Buck, moving west-to-east. She said, “It seemed like they were probably already in the area” when the flaming objects appeared, since they arrived shortly thereafter.

Given Buck’s location, and the direction of the streaks of light, due east of her, they may have been above Echo Flight or, depending on their actual distance from her, just west or east of it. (The objects could have also been hundreds of miles away, if they were meteors, but Buck’s distinct impression was that they were much closer.)
Buck said, “The second flame was in the same area as the first one. They were orange and moving sort of rapidly. The big one lasted half-a-second and the other was [briefer] than that.”

These trails of light were clearly not air-dropped military flares, given their short duration, their horizontal movement, and the fact that they were visible several minutes before the two jets made their appearance.

I asked Buck if the objects could have been meteors—commonly called “shooting stars”—but she responded by saying that the fiery objects were somehow different in appearance than the meteors she had seen in the past. Given that she is not certain about the date, this sighting cannot be directly associated with the others reported on the 21st, although it may have indeed been linked to them.

Regardless, it appears that bona fide UFO activity occurred in Fergus County, Montana, during the period of September 19-21, 2012, if not longer. I am requesting anyone having knowledge of these events, or any other UFO sightings near Malmstrom’s missile sites located elsewhere in Montana, recent or otherwise, to contact me.

Witnesses’ names will be kept confidential unless I am authorized to publish them.

In conclusion, the UFO sightings near Malmstrom AFB’s missile sites in recent weeks—as reported by civilians living in or visiting the region—represent only the latest chapter in the UFO-Nukes Connection saga. Its well-documented history, as revealed in declassified U.S. government files and military eyewitness testimony, extends back to December 1948. Countless official denials about the reality of the situation have been issued over the years but, sooner or later, this amazing story will break wide open.

Continue Reading . . .




See Also:

The UFOs-Nukes Connection Press Conference:

Witness Affidavits and Declassified Documents


Echo Flight UFO Incident Not Unique: Retired Col. Frederick Meiwald Says “Bright Object” Also Sighted During OSCAR Flight Missile Malfunctions

The Air Force Cover-Up:
"Deception, Distortion, and Lying to The Public About the Reality of the UFO Phenomenon"


UFOs Did Shutdown Minuteman Missiles at Echo Flight and Oscar Flight at Malmstrom AFB in March 1967

New Reports of UFO Activity Near F.E. Warren AFB’s Nuclear Missile Sites
At Least Two More Sightings During the Last Half of 2011


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Monday, January 12, 2009

UFOs Did Shutdown Minuteman Missiles at Echo Flight and Oscar Flight at Malmstrom AFB in March 1967


By Robert Hastings
ufohastings.com
© 1-10-09

     Those of you who have followed the ongoing online exchange between James T. Carlson and myself, regarding the UFO-related missile shutdowns at one of the U.S. Air Force’s Strategic Air Command bases in 1967, already know Carlson’s take on things, as well as my own. For those of you just joining the fray, Carlson’s father, Eric, had been the missile launch commander at one of the two Minuteman missile “flights”, Echo, when all ten of the missiles malfunctioned. Carlson Sr. told his son, James, that no UFOs were present when the incident occurred, despite the testimony of the deputy missile commander that day, now-retired Col. Walter Figel, who states that he did indeed receive two separate reports of a UFO hovering over one of Echo’s missiles at the time of the shutdowns. Figel first confirmed this to another former missile launch officer, Bob Salas, and his research associate, Jim Klotz, in the mid-1990s. More recently, in October 2008, Figel confirmed it to me as well, in a taped telephone conversation. All of this has prompted a flurry of posts from James, over the last few years, directed at Salas and everyone else who disputes what his father told him. Now that I have challenged the accuracy of what the senior Carlson has said, James is after my hide too.

A review of James Carlson’s online posts to date will reveal a sometimes reasonable, but mostly overly-emotional response to my own posts. The moderator of this blog, Frank Warren, already modified one of Carlson’s responses, deleting a passage in which James told me to go f*** myself. I simply mention this fact because, behind the scenes, Carlson has made the following statements to me via email:
JTC’s email to RH on 12/30: “…you were so sloppy and careless…a piss-poor writer and researcher…you're really just a pathetic, egotistical nothing of a person, an unhealthy canker sore on the world, and, even worse, you know that, you're actually conscious of exactly how pathetic you really are, and how unimportant and worthless your thoughts and theories are to the rest of the world, and how your scheming and lying in the long run will compare less favorably to the average ambitions of an otherwise ignorant man…

And since you're not a very honest individual -- even to yourself (after all, a man who is as pathetic as you are and realizes the true extent of that must lie an awful lot to himself on a regular basis just to get through the day -- I bet you hate mirrors) -- you tell yourself that one more little worthless expression of your will is all you need to make this heretic admit that he was wrong and that the liar is after all telling the truth…

After all of this explanation regarding your personality flaws and your motivations and the effect your own bad writing and research has on your point of view and why it's so necessary for you to get the last word in, so you can feel for one bare-headed moment in time that maybe you're not the pathetic loser your every second on earth shouts out to the universe that you are, it's ironic that tomorrow morning, I'll still be the only one of us telling the truth, and you'll still be the idiot who has to re-interview his sources before answering a few questions on a subject he's already written a book about. And so, the world keeps turning, and we both greet the morning sun, each of us fully aware that you really are a sad and pathetic piece of shit.”

JTC’s email to RH on 12/31: “I knew you'd never be able to stop yourself from writing back. You're just so damn easy -- of course, being an uncontrollable whore helps some, doesn't it? You just keep on doing whatever you're doing, 'cause you're being publicly spanked all over the place, and I'm just enjoying the shit out of it.”

Ciao, Bitch,
James Carlson
Robert Hastings responds:
Whew! So, according to James, I’m dishonest, a piss-poor writer and researcher, an idiot, a pathetic, egotistical nothing of a person, an unhealthy canker sore on the world, a bitch, a piece of shit, a whore, and a pathetic loser. For those of you who are keeping score, that’s two pathetics. (In the interest of fairness, I hereby confess that somewhere in the midst of that two-day tirade, I called James a “putz”. Look it up.)

I’m confident that most of the people reading this are hoping, as I am, that James will seek some help. I have already recommended that he take an anger management course, try deep breathing exercises, or begin meditation.

Well, not that it will ever matter to James T. Carlson, but for those of you who might be interested, I have developed additional information about the two UFO-related, full-flight missile shutdowns at Malmstrom AFB, in March 1967, which further clarifies what occurred and, therefore, assists in providing the most probable scenario regarding the timing of the two events. Actually, those findings have been online since 2006, at:
http://tinyurl.com/9lwj5q

In any case, here is an important piece of the puzzle. Excerpting from the above-reference article:

My Sources

Malmstrom AFB, Montana (1966-67):
1st Lt. Robert C. Jamison—Former USAF Minuteman ICBM targeting officer (Combat Targeting Team Commander), 341st Missile Maintenance Squadron, Malmstrom AFB, Montana:

Jamison states that he assisted in the re-start of an entire "flight" of ten Minuteman ICBMs which had simultaneously and inexplicably shut down immediately after a UFO was sighted in their vicinity by Air Force Security Police. Jamison is certain that the incident occurred at one of the missile flights located near Lewistown, Montana, perhaps Oscar Flight. This event probably occurred on the night of March 24/25, 1967, based on Jamison’s portrayal of related events.

Jamison said that while his and other teams were preparing to respond to the stricken flight, they were ordered—as a precaution—to remain at Malmstrom until all UFO reports from the field had ceased. He further states that his team received a special briefing prior to being dispatched, during which it was directed to immediately report any UFO sighted while traveling to or from the missile field. In the event that a UFO appeared at one of the missile silos during the re-start procedure, the team was directed to enter the silo's personnel hatch, and remain underground until the UFO had left the vicinity. According to Jamison, the Air Police guard accompanying the team was to remain outside and relay information about the UFO to the base Command Post. Jamison’s own team re-started three or four missiles but did not observe any unusual aerial activity.

Jamison said that while he was at the missile maintenance hangar, waiting to be dispatched to the field, he overheard two-way radio communications at the temporary Command Post, relating to another UFO having been sighted on the ground in a canyon near the town of Belt. He states he recalls hearing that a top commander—either Malmstrom’s base commander, or the 341st Strategic Missile Wing commander—was on-site with other personnel. Based on these recollections, it appears that Jamison is describing the well-documented Belt, Montana UFO sighting of March 24/25, 1967.

Jamison said that immediately after the missile shutdown incident, for a period of approximately two weeks, his team received a special UFO briefing, identical to the one described above, before being dispatched to the field.

Jamison said that approximately two weeks after the full-flight missile shutdown, his team responded to another, partial shutdown—involving four or five ICBMs. Prior to being dispatched, Jamison’s team received a report that the missile failures had occurred immediately after a UFO was sighted over the flight's Launch Control Facility. Jamison recalls that this incident took place at a flight located south or southwest of Great Falls, possibly India Flight, and during daylight hours...

If Jamison’s recollections are correct, and he did indeed respond to a large-scale missile shutdown at Oscar Flight on the same date as the well-documented Belt UFO sighting, then the date proposed for the Oscar event by Salas and Klotz—March 16, 1967—would seem to be in error. Salas has now acknowledged this possibility, however, Klotz remains skeptical about the alternate date…

Salas said, “I [now] think it is more likely that Oscar Flight went down on some date after the Echo Flight [shutdown] and that it could very well have been on the same day as the Belt sighting. One of the factors that lead me to that 'opinion' is the lack of comment about two flights going down in the [now-declassified] telex that went out, and in the unit history. If the two had gone down on the same day, that would have been mentioned. The reason, I think, Oscar wasn't mentioned later is because by then the Air Force wanted to keep a secrecy lid on it and avoid the possibility of a leak by the indication of a growing and continuing problem. That would have made quite some headlines in the press.”

In conclusion, Jamison’s statements are important because they indicate that the Air Force was fully aware of UFO involvement in at least two missile flight shutdown incidents [most likely at Oscar and India] prior to dispatching the missile maintenance teams to restart the ICBMs. Specifically, according to Jamison, the 341st Missile Maintenance Squadron undertook certain precautions and formally implemented various procedures to protect the teams’ safety while in the field. In this respect, his testimony is unprecedented.

END OF EXCERPT

So, given this testimony, it seems likely that Oscar went down on the evening of March 24th. By the way, James, I first interviewed Bob Jamison in 1992, some four years before Salas and Klotz posted their article online. I was not in touch with Salas until 1998, or with Klotz until 2002, so neither of them was aware of Jamison’s statements to me until well after they had posted their article online. Consequently, the former Combat Targeting Team Commander’s statements regarding his response to a UFO-related, full-flight missile shutdown were already on-the-record well before Salas attempted to reconstruct, circa 1995, the exact flight he had been at and the date of the shutdown he witnessed in 1967. Jamison’s own written statement, sent to Bob Salas in 2004, appears here.

So, anyway, here we have a former missile targeting team officer, Bob Jamison, reporting that he responded to a UFO-related, full-flight shutdown, probably at Oscar Flight (I am being cautious, Jamison told me he was certain it was Oscar when we spoke) on the same night of the well-document incident of March 24/25, 1967, when a UFO landed in a canyon near Belt, Montana. This information also makes moot James Carlson’s criticisms about the weather conditions reported by Salas at the time Oscar’s missiles went down (a clear, starry night) conflicting with those mentioned by Electro-Mechanical technician Hank Barlow who reported windy, snowy conditions at the time Echo’s missiles went down. The conditions were different because the two shutdowns occurred on different days. According to a declassified USAF document, Echo went down at 8:30 a.m. on March 16th; according to Bob Jamison, Oscar went down sometime after 10 p.m. on the 24th, and perhaps even later, sometime in the early hours of the 25th.

I know, James, I know: Jamison is a liar too. Or he doesn’t remember clearly. Unlike your own father, who would never shade the truth to protect national security, and whose memory of the events at Echo Flight are of course crystal clear after 40 years and unimpeachable. (Well, you get points for being a loyal, if perhaps too gullible son. By the way, James, your father told me that he hadn’t talked to you in years, and didn’t even have your phone number. Maybe it’s time for another father-to-son talk about all of this. You should call him.)

Additionally, James, your father’s missile deputy commander at Echo, now Col. Walt Figel, is rather puzzled by your posted statements—which I sent to him—given that you have publicly misrepresented what he told me in a taped telephone conversation on 10/20/08. You wouldn’t know that of course, because you’re too timid to call him, to hear the facts from his own mouth, about the very serious, eyewitness reports he received from a missile maintenance man and security team leader, of a UFO hovering over one of the Echo missile sites at the time the whole ten-missile flight shut down.

As you know, you’ve attempted to spin those facts, by incorrectly portraying the Strike Team leader’s report of a “large, round object hovering directly over the site” as a joke. Figel doesn’t claim that it was a joke, only you do. Actually, Figel told me that the team leader “was serious but I wasn’t taking him seriously.” So, no matter what you say, James, it was no joke, as Figel made quite clear to me (and to Bob Salas and Jim Klotz, over ten years ago, when they interviewed him). You weren’t there that day, talking to the Strike Team leader, James, but Figel was.

In my latest phone call to Figel, earlier today, he told me that while he didn’t know what your motivation was for misrepresenting his earlier statements to me, he thought that you “seem to have an ax to grind.” I hereby offer, once again, to give you Figel’s phone number, if you are interested in hearing all of this directly. (By the way, Figel asked me to call him after the holidays, hence my delay in posting this. I only needed to re-interview him because I wanted his reaction to your misplaced interpretation of his comments to me. Of course, in your most recent posts, you claimed that I needed to re-interview Figel because I had failed to ask the right questions the first time around, and also claimed that my delay in responding to your posts was because I was afraid to address your accusations. None of which is true.)

Interestingly, your own father, Eric Carlson, told me in a 10/6/08 telephone conversation that he himself had previously received reports from missile security guards of UFOs during other missile alerts he had pulled at Malmstrom, but that he didn’t take them seriously either. He told me, “you take an 18-year-old kid and stick him out there for days, with nothing but TV dinners, and they have a tendency to see things.” Did your father ever tell you that, James, that he had indeed received UFO sighting reports from missile guards at one time or another, but disbelieved them? If he did, you have never mentioned it publicly.

Gee, I wonder what else your father didn’t tell you...

So, James, the actual eyewitnesses—the ones that you are always ranting on about as being the only true witnesses—were in fact reporting the sighting of UFOs in Malmstrom’s missile field, during one alert or another, to both Col. Figel and your father. Just because the two launch officers didn’t take the reports seriously does not mean that they weren’t valid reports. (Bob Salas didn’t take his Flight Security Controller—his top guard—seriously either, when he was told of a UFO hovering over the security fence gate at Oscar’s Launch Control Facility. So, there’s another thing your father and Salas have in common.)

As you know, Col. Figel also told me that your father was sitting “two feet away” from him when he was talking to the Strike Team leader on the phone about the UFO, and was also sitting next to him back at squadron headquarters, later that day, when Figel told the squadron commanders and others of receiving reports of UFO activity at Echo Flight. In fact, Figel told me that he “told them everything everyone [at the launch facility] told me. No one made any comments or inquiries.” Figel said that his comments were not treated with disbelief or contempt but that everything he said was written down. (That’s a report, James, just like the report Figel told the Strike Team leader to make in his own log, after sighting the UFO.) Figel further told me that he is “almost certain” that your father was questioned as well but, regardless, he certainly did not contradict anything Figel was saying to the commanders about having received UFO reports from the missile maintenance man and the Strike Team leader. (When I asked your father about the phone call Figel had with the Strike Team leader, during which a UFO was reported over one of the missile sites, he first said that he “had no knowledge” of UFOs being reported, however, later on he said that he couldn’t “recall” whether there had been any mention of UFOs.)

Regardless, neither Figel nor your father were relieved of their positions as missile commander and deputy commander, despite the highly unusual nature of their report. So, the reports they made to their superiors were treated seriously, probably because such reports of UFOs near missile sites had already been generated at Minot AFB—another Strategic Air Command base, months earlier, in August 1966—as now-declassified USAF documents confirm. I also have eyewitness reports from two security guards at Malmstrom who reported UFOs at other flights in 1966-67. Consequently, your father’s commanders probably already knew about such reports and did not think of him, or Figel, or the maintenance man or the Strike Team leader, as deranged or unreliable, simply because there had been reports of a UFO hovering over one of Echo Flight’s missiles when the flight went down.

Instead, after being debriefed, Figel was told, “Thank you very much. Don’t talk about it.” Given that Figel says your father was sitting right next to him during the debriefing, he would have been told the same thing. Maybe that’s why your father didn’t tell you any of these things, James. Maybe he felt that he couldn’t tell you the truth, even decades later, because of national security. If that’s the case, his motives are understandable. Unfortunately, because of your public defaming of everyone else involved with the two separate, full-flight shutdowns at Malmstrom in March 1967, you have created a situation where I must challenge your flawed, sad, self-delusional display. But I haven’t made a fool of you, James. You did that to yourself, although you seem oblivious to that fact.

On the other hand, maybe your dad didn’t mislead you. Maybe his memory is not what it once was. That’s quite possible of course. In any case, Col. Figel seemed very sharp, intelligent and articulate when I spoke with him and he was clearly puzzled by your father’s claim of having no memory of the conversation he had to have overheard in the capsule, since he was sitting “two feet away” from Figel when it occurred.

Ah, others will ask: But what about Salas’ reconstruction of what he initially presumed to be his involvement in the Echo missile shutdown incident? James Carlson makes much of Salas later modifying his first published statements on the shutdowns, and says that proves that Salas is a liar.

Actually, Salas’ evolving account is understandable and easily explained. Well, it’s readily explainable to reasonable, unbiased, non-hysterical listeners. Here are the facts: Salas approached researcher Jim Klotz in 1995 and asked him to file FOIA requests regarding the Malmstrom missile shutdown incidents on his behalf. When part of the 341st Strategic Missile Wing history was declassified and released to Klotz, it acknowledged a full-flight missile shutdown at Echo Flight, on March 16, 1967, and also referenced UFO sightings at November Flight. Salas first assumed that he and his missile commander, now-retired Col. Fred Meiwald, had been at Echo because that was the only full-flight shutdown the Air Force would admit to.

However, at that point, Salas had not yet located Meiwald, so he had only hunches and educated guesses to go on. However, eventually the two launch officers who were actually at Echo during that shutdown, Walt Figel and Eric Carlson, were identified—as a result of Klotz’ ongoing investigation—at which point Salas assumed that he and Meiwald had actually been at November Flight, the only flight mentioned in the wing history where UFOs had been reported.

Now, here is something else James does not seem to know, even though it has been public for years: Because 341st SMW Historian David Gamble explicitly told Jim Klotz that “the UFO aspect” of his report in the wing history had later been rewritten by his superiors—that is, the sighting reports at November were officially portrayed as unfounded “rumors”—Salas reasonably concluded that this amounted to a cover-up and that UFOs had indeed been sighted at November Flight and, therefore, that was the flight he had been at. However, this second assumption about the flight in question also proved to be incorrect later on when Salas’ former missile commander, Col. Meiwald, was finally located and interviewed by both Salas and Klotz. Meiwald himself (not Salas, as James Carlson erroneously claims) insisted that the second full-flight shutdown—the one he and Salas had been involved in—was at Oscar, not November Flight. Given this development, Salas understandably deferred to Meiwald’s recollection of the flight’s designation.

Significantly, with the exception of the number of missiles that malfunctioned at Oscar, Col. Meiwald completely endorses Salas’ account. (Moreover, as we now know, missile targeting officer Bob Jamison had already gone on-the-record about having responded to a UFO-related, full-flight shutdown at Oscar, probably in the early hours of March 25th—a fact unknown to both Salas and Meiwald at the time they were reunited and began comparing notes.)

Salas has written, “With regards to how many birds went down at Oscar, I have always deferred to my missile commander Miewald [who recalled] something less than ten. However, my own gut tells me it was all of them. I just can’t remember for sure and Miewald seems to be certain.”

Meiwald also told Salas that when he had reported the Oscar shutdowns to the missile command post by phone, he had been told that the same thing had happened “earlier” at another flight. It was this recollection that initially led Salas to believe that another flight had shutdown earlier that day. Because the wing history mentioned a large-scale shutdown at Echo, on March 16, 1967, Salas reasonably assumed that Echo had to have been the “earlier” flight Meiwald was told about. In fact, Salas held this view for years, until I presented him with former targeting officer Bob Jamison’s testimony regarding a full-flight shutdown on the night of March 24/25. Armed with this new information, Salas made further inquires on his own:
In another email to me, Salas wrote, “I recently spoke with Dick Evans...who I also knew back in the days of Malmstrom. He was also a DMCCC at the time of the Echo shutdowns. In fact he told me he was at Kilo Flight the morning of the Echo Shutdown...Kilo Flight was the 'Command Flight' for the 490th Squadron, which included Oscar Flight. [Evans] told me that he has no recollection of Oscar shutting down or having any problems on that morning. He would have certainly been notified. I just received this information a few days ago...[my emphasis –RH] That info plus the other witnesses already mentioned [primarily Jamison --RH] make for a strong case that Oscar did not go down on [March] 16th.”

In other words, as more and more information became available to Klotz and Salas over time, their knowledge of the facts—the flights involved, the dates they went down—understandably changed. James Carlson would have you believe that this is somehow sinister, and that Salas is lying about, well, everything. Why does James insist on this? Well, first and foremost, Salas had the unmitigated gall to publicly state that Col. Walt Figel had confirmed to him and Jim Klotz that a UFO was indeed reported at Echo Flight on March 16, 1967, and since James’ father, Eric Carlson, had told him otherwise, well, Salas just had to be a liar. That started the ball rolling...

In any case, James, and everybody else, that is the actual chain of events regarding Bob Salas’ evolving public account of the Oscar shutdown incident. In short, James Carlson’s supposed “facts” are incorrect and his “logic” is flawed when he emotionally interprets Salas’ actions and motives. This is an excellent example of an armchair expert’s inept and tainted use of logic—rather than actually interviewing witnesses—resulting in a wrong conclusion. Even as I write this, James is refusing to contact Walt Figel, to hear the facts about the Echo shutdowns from the man who actually received the UFO sighting reports from one of his own Strike Teams, even though I have repeatedly offered Figel’s phone number to James. This is the type of irrational stubbornness James Carlson brings to this debate. His blind acceptance of his father’s version of events is all he needed before commencing his wild tirade online, attacking anyone who disputes what his daddy told him. Unfortunately, in the process, James has smeared the reputation of a number of honorable former or retired Air Force officers.

True, James was/is working under a handicap: His father, Eric Carlson, either intentionally misled him about the actual UFO-related events at Echo, as divulged ten years ago to Klotz and Salas, and more recently to me, by his father’s deputy missile commander, Col. Walt Figel, or the elder Carlson’s memory is now somewhat impaired regarding the events at Echo Flight.

The alternative to one of these two possibilities is this implausible scenario: Eric Carlson has a great memory nowadays and he was entirely truthful when he told his son James that no UFOs were involved at Echo Flight. Therefore, Col. Walt Figel lied, Col. Fred Meiwald lied, former Lt. Bob Jamison lied, former Captain Bob Salas lied, missile technician Hank Barlow lied, wing historian David Gamble lied, researcher Jim Klotz lied and, last but not least, I have been lying.

The reader may draw his or her own conclusions about the merits of James Carlson’s arguments and charges, relative to the information I have presented here.

Now, as if any more testimony were actually needed to support the idea of UFO-involvement in the Echo Flight shutdown incident, after Col. Figel’s statements on the matter, I will now excerpt a February 1, 1997 letter written by Robert Kaminski to Jim Klotz. Kaminski headed-up the team of Boeing engineers who were responsible for investigating the Echo malfunctions. (Despite what James Carlson says, the team never concluded that a failing logic coupler had caused the shutdowns—nor did power failures, nor any other prosaic cause, as Kaminski himself clearly states below.) He writes:
“Since this was a field site peculiar incident, a determination was made to send out an investigation team to survey the LCF [Echo Launch Control Facility] and the LFs [Launch Facilities, or silos] to determine what failures or related incidents could be found to explain the cause. The team was made up of qualified engineers and technicians headed by scientific person who was a glaciologist. There were about 5 persons in all that were sent out. After a week in the field the team returned and pooled their data. At the outset the team quickly noticed a lack of anything that would come close to explain why the event occurred. There were no significant failures, engineering data or findings that would explain how ten missiles were knocked off alert. This indeed turned out to be a rare event and not encountered before. The use of backup power systems and other technical system circuit operational redundancy strongly suggests that this kind of event is virtually impossible once the system was up and running and on line with other LCF's and LF's interconnectivity.

[After months of investigation,] the team met with me to report their findings and it was decided that the final report would have nothing significant in it to explain what happened at E-Flight. In other words there was no technical explanation that could explain the event. The team went off to do the report. Meanwhile I was contacted by our representative at OOAMA (Don Peterson) and told by him that the incident was reported as being a UFO event—That a UFO was seen by some Airmen over the LCF [sic] at the time E-Flight went down.

Subsequently, we were notified a few days later, that a stop work order was on the way from OOAMA to stop any further effort on this project. We stopped. We were also told that we were not to submit the final engineering report. This was most unusual since all of our work required review by the customer and the submittal of a final Engineering report to OOAMA.”

I have a copy of Kaminski’s letter. So, James, the Boeing engineers were told to stop their work, and not to submit a report—an unprecedented request on the part of the Air Force. And what was the reason given to Kaminski for this unusual situation? Why, there had indeed been UFO involvement in the Echo Flight shutdowns!

I know, James, I know: Kaminski is lying too. Right?

Because of the extreme sensitivity of these two missile shutdown incidents, even now, formal Air Force reports—from the Strike Team leader, from Carlson and Figel’s squadron commanders, from SAC headquarters, from the Pentagon—will obviously not be forthcoming for the foreseeable future. James Carlson will cling to this last straw and continue to claim that no evidence, that is, no official reports of UFO involvement in the Echo and Oscar Flight shutdowns, exist to prove what Walt Figel, Fred Meiwald, Bob Salas, Hank Barlow and the others have now finally revealed. Other debunkers will undoubtedly be satisfied with this faux argument as well and continue to hold up James Carlson’s, ahem, astute statements on the issue as reasonable and informed debate. Such is life…

One of these days, James, you really ought to apologize to Salas, Klotz, Meiwald, and the others you have so recklessly and needlessly defamed. But I won’t hold my breath. Actually, I still have a lot of research to do, relating to other UFO activity at Malmstrom and other former SAC missile bases, from the 1960s up to nearly the present day, so I won’t continue this public exchange, except when it pleases me to do so. So rant on, James. And, for Pete’s sake, call your father one of these years.
Jamison Statement

ROBERT C. JAMISON                        October 27, 2004
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BOB SALAS
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Bob Salas:

The following is the best of my recollection regarding the Malmstrom AFB Missile-UFO incident of March 1967. This incident occurred 37 years ago and time can compress and warp memories. However, I remember this incident quite well and offer the following:

In 1967, I was a Second Lieutenant in the USAF, later promoted to First Lieutenant by the time of the UFO incident. I was assigned to the 341st Missile Maintenance Squadron (MIMS) at Malmstrom AFB in Montana as a Missile Targeting Officer. Essentially, my job was to point the missile in the right direction. In addition, we were dispatched to restart a missile which, for any reason, went off strategic alert or was down for other maintenance, such as replacement of missile, the guidance and control systems, RV (re-entry vehicle or war head) or any other activity requiring the missile to be taken off alert status. Missiles must be on alert status at all times, ready for immediate use if necessary. Alert status meant the gyros in the guidance section are on and other functions remain active.

We were mostly on stand-by status and ready to respond whenever needed. On certain occasions we would be dispatched on a scheduled task. These would primarily be target related missions (usually retargeting). We were on a six day schedule. The first day we would be on stand-by, or dispatched, in the mornings, the second day in the afternoon and the third day in the evenings which usually extended into the fourth day. The remaining two days were either days off or training days. In the event we were not dispatched we may be required to report for other house cleaning type duties.

On the day of the UFO events in Oscar Flight in March 1967 I was on evening stand-by, I received a call from Job Control (they are the unit that keeps track of the missile status and dispatches maintenance teams as needed). I was told that a missile in Oscar Flight had gone off alert and required a restart. No other information was given, which was not unusual. I called my team members (two enlisted personnel: an NCO and an Airman). Upon arriving at the MIMS hanger to prepare for the dispatch, a friend (I don't remember who) approached me and asked me if I knew what was happening. I did not. I was told a UFO was seen over Oscar Flight and the whole flight went off alert. I then went to job control to find out what was going on. They confirmed what I had been told and that I would have to restart 3 or 4 missiles that night but stick around until they were sure that the event was over.

I mentioned that I thought that was unusual, or something to that effect. They told me something even more unusual. A truck driver reported a UFO going into a canyon south of Great Falls. At this location, near a town named Belt, was a long, straight down grade fill section with steep sides. On the south side was a small canyon. I was told that several people from the base, including either the Base Commander of the Wing Commander, I don't remember which, was also on site. They reported strange lights on the floor of the canyon. The sides of the canyon were rather steep and not safe for scaling until, at least, daylight. Also two helicopters were dispatched to the area to keep their eyes on the thing until daylight. Again, because of the steep sides and narrowness of the site, they were not permitted to descend in the dark. I was told that I could possibly get more information at a temporary Command Post set up in the Daily Briefing Room. I was let in but didn't get much information as nothing much was going on at the time. They were in radio communication with those at the scene. I did hear descriptions of lights on the bottom of the canyon. Other than that, it was pretty boring. I stood in the back of the small room as I had no input to offer. I was there for probably 45 minutes when one of my crew members came in and told me that no new incidents have occurred and that we were to dispatch. Prior to dispatch I was told to attend a short briefing, involving only my crew (other crews were given the same briefing, separately, when they were dispatched). We were told to keep our eyes open for any unusual aerial activity. If anything was seen en route to or from any of the sites, report immediately by radio. If we were at the site and the site was open we were to enter the silo with the targeting tapes which we carried to the site and close the personnel hatch. (Although the missiles were more or less "pointed" in the right direction we had to program the missile's computer, using the tapes, with other information such as the launch code (partial), range data and blast type. The tapes were optically encoded and classified secret/crypto. They were to be guarded at all times). The SAT guard (accompanying us to the sites at all times) was to be left outside. At that time, he was the only one armed. Later, the Targeting Team members (officer and NCO only) were issued .38s (but not as a result of the UFO activities). The missiles in Oscar Flight averaged about 160 miles from the base. With the Air Force vehicles, we spent 7 to 8 hours traveling time and about two hours for each restart procedure but no activities were seen and the remainder of the night was uneventful.

Upon return to the base, about mid-day the next day, I reported for trip debriefing. All dispatches, including those prior to the incident required a debriefing upon return to the base. Not surprisingly, the main topic was the UFO incident. I reported that I saw nothing unusual. I also inquired about the trapped UFO. I was told that at daybreak the UFO in the canyon rose up out of the canyon, between the two helicopters, and sped away. Later I found out that the area in the canyon was investigated. Weeds and brush in the canyon appeared to have been disturbed but I don't know how much or to what extent or the nature of the disturbance.
I talked to several people, mostly SAT members, who personally witnessed these events. They obviously saw something and were visibly shaken. I remember one telling of seeing two small red lights off at a distance. They then began to close in toward the missile site, then he broke down so I don't know what happened. I thought it best not to pursue the matter further. I never even mentioned it to him later. Rumor had it that several people went bonkers, but I don't know who and I seriously doubt it. In these types of events, exaggeration and fancy take their toll.

A short time following these events (I don't remember how long) a UFO was seen over India Flight and several, but not all, missiles went off alert. As in the Oscar event, I was called upon to restore alert status to these missiles. I also heard that a similar event occurred over Echo Flight. I don't remember this event. This may have occurred during one of my off-duty days when I try to have as little contact with MIMS as possible. These are the days I reserve for myself and my family.

Several weeks after the above events, I was assigned to accompany Boeing technicians to visit the sites to query the guidance and control sections. They were not permitted to be at the site unless accompanied by authorized personnel. I asked then to include the UFO incident in their final report and they said they would! The final report was classified and I can't confirm that this was done.

I hope this helps. I apologize for the delay in getting this to you. Not only was I involved in wringing the last bit out of the summer vacation period I wanted to give this report plenty of thought so that the information is complete and correct to the best of my recollection. My signature below gives you permission to use the above information in any way which may assist you in your endeavors. Keep in touch,

Jamison