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Monday, October 28, 2013

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Stephen Lovekin

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     Brigadier General Lovekin entered the military in 1958. In 1959 he joined the White House Army Signaling Agency and served under President Eisenhower and then under President Kennedy with an above top secret clearance. He was familiar with Project Blue Book and related how that project documented highly scientific and specific UFO cases from very reliable sources. They reviewed photos taken from Air Force pilots, Marine Air Corps pilots and some foreign pilots and multiple reports of radar lock-ons. He was also shown a piece of metallic debris taken from the Roswell crash. While working under President Eisenhower, he discovered that Eisenhower had a keen interest in UFO's, but that Eisenhower came to realize that he had lost control of the subject. . . .

Tuesday, January 16, 2007

- EXCLUSIVE -
Stephen Lovekin: "His Morals and Ethics are Beyond Question"

Lovekin WHASA Commendation

By Linda T. Pierce
1-12-07


Stephen Lovekin (Sml)     I have known Stephen Lovekin for 50 years. We went to prep school together, became good friends, and have remained friends since that time.

There seems to be a question about Stephen’s military service years ago. I was married in 1960 and Stephen came to my wedding in uniform. He was 19 years old at the time, and I happen to know this as a fact because we share the same birthday: August 1, 1940.

Stephen was a quiet and unassuming young man whose innate intelligence often enabled him to think more deeply about things than most teenagers. I have never known him to brag, to enlarge stories, or to lie. His morals and ethics are beyond question; and his compassion, concern, and incredible kindness have earned him a plethora of friends who regard him with great affection and who hold him in high esteem. There are many things that make Stephen Lovekin stand out and above the crowd and one of them is the consistency of his character and the fact that he is a true gentleman.

I find it sad that in a world so laden with trouble and with so many of our standards crashing down, that someone who exemplifies the best in human beings is subjected to such unfounded and cruel accusations. Stephen Lovekin's word alone, on any subject, is good enough for me and good enough for the countless friends and associates he has made throughout his life. In fact I would nominate him as the most desirable candidate to be cloned, simply because the world needs more people like him.

The search to verify the existence of UFOs is highly critical and holds great portent for us "Earthlings". I would think that any civilization advanced enough to develop the means to traverse the vast spaces of the Universe must have surely have solved the problems of energy sharing and given up the practices of going to war long ago. If UFOs are real, the knowledge they hold could possibly save mankind from the sure-fire self-extinction heading our way. Maybe they are just cruising around trying to decide if we are worth the energy to make their presence known. With all we might stand to gain, and in our present position perched on the threshold of worldwide disaster; it seems petty and foolish to be caught up in bickering over whose name should be on or off the UFO list. Stephen Lovekin's service in the White House has been verified over and over. He is one of a few individuals who has served at the highest level, and that fact simply cannot be disputed. It is of little relevance what rank he held in what service: the importance lies in the information he holds. If I were on that UFO and happened to see the wasted space taken up with the character assassination of a fine human being such as Stephen Lovekin, I think I'd just drop into first gear and head for another solar system. Stop the bickering and get on with the quest.

Wednesday, March 01, 2006

Interview: Former White House ASA Specialist Under Eisenhower 'Stephen Lovekin' with Grant Cameron

Grant Cameron (Sml)     What do all the presidents from Roosevelt to “Dubya” have in common? That would be “Grant Cameron” and his highly regarded most informative web site, “The Presidents UFO Web Site.”

Stephen Lovekin (Sml)This is why it comes to no surprise that with all the recent hoopla over former Eisenhower White House Army Signals Agency (WHASA) specialist “Stephen Lovekin,” that Cameron had previously interviewed him, albeit brief, but an informative exchange nonetheless—FW.

July 21, 2003 Interview of Stephen (Steven) Lovekin and Grant Cameron conducted by phone.
GC: Hello. I am a researcher who runs the presidential UFO website, and I had a couple of short questions. I was wondering if you could answer them? I am doing a story in connection with Mount Weather and UFOs, and I believe you described UFOs and Mount Weather. Can you tell me what the connection was?

Lovekin: There was no connection. The only thing is that I had been there. I spent some time there.

GC: On one of the tapes you had something to the effect that they were tracking them from there.

Lovekin: Well that seemed to be the case. I certainly didn’t see any evidence to that effect. There was talk about it. Yes.

GC: OK, I guess I just don’t know where you got that. Someone had told you that?

Lovekin: Someone told me that – yes.

GC: You were there one time?

Lovekin: I was there probably a dozen times.

GC: With Signals Intelligence you are dealing with the President’s communications and stuff like that?

Lovekin: That is right.

GC: The person that I was looking at was the guy who ran Mount Weather. This would be 1965. Did you have any contact with this person named Bourassa?

Lovekin: No, I was there in 1960 and 1961.

GC: And who was the military advisor that you were under Eisenhower?

Lovekin: Ah…gees…Colonel…I’m trying to recall his name. I can’t think of his name sorry. He was a Colonel.

GC: He was a general military advisor, or he was with one of the services?

Lovekin: He was the military advisor to the President. Colonel Schulz.

GC: Some of them had an Air Force advisor, and an Army advisor.

Lovekin: That’s right.

GC: Do you remember the guy that was under Kennedy? Did Kennedy know what was going on?

Lovekin: He knew what was going on.

GC: So Kennedy knew.

Lovekin: Yes.

GC: Even though he was a Democrat?

Lovekin: Yes.

GC: And Eisenhower. You never heard Eisenhower. You just heard people talking about Eisenhower knowing about this? You were never there when Eisenhower was talking about it?

Lovekin: Yes I was.

GC: Oh you were. I didn’t know that part of the story.

Lovekin: Yes.

GC: When was this? At Mount Weather or…

Lovekin: No, this was at Camp David.

GC: And that was one occasion?

Lovekin: Probably a couple occasions.

GC: Can you tell me what the situation was? Was someone talking to him about
sightings, or how did this subject come up?

Lovekin: Well he was waiting for a phone call on one occasion, and he started doodling. That was one of his favorites.

GC: I have seen some of his doodlings.

Lovekin: (Laughs) Anyway, he was doodling UFOs. Anyway, somehow or other he got to taking about UFOs in 1952 shortly before he took office.

GC: What was that?

Lovekin: Those were the sightings in Washington DC.

GC: I see, yes, over the capitol.

Lovekin: Yes. But he was talking about some other things as well. He just kind of rambled on. There wasn’t too much that was specific, but he did discuss it. It was a very very important concern of his. I think one of the things that he was concerned about was, we were going through a serious recession back then, and the government had to let go of a lot of its control to the military industrial complex. He was much concerned about that. It just wasn’t something that the government could tackle at that moment. Didn’t want to tackle I guess would be a better way of putting it. But yes, he was very much into it. He believed in them. He realized the concern. He realized the concern for the American people, and I think that he honestly wanted to do something that was positive, but somehow or other his hands were tied. I am not sure why, but I have an idea.

We would sit around with him when we were at Camp David, and he knew who each and every one of us by name. That was the great thing about being under him. I was just a sergeant at the time. I was still privy to some stuff that some people wouldn’t be privy to.

GC: I’m not sure about what Signal Intelligence deals with…I know communication, but Mount Weather had direct communication links to the White House. What would you be doing for Signal Intelligence?

Lovekin: Well there were a number of places that the President would go in case of attack. Camp David was one, Fort Ritchie was another, there was a special area set aside for him and congressional leaders at Fort Ritchie, and then there was another one right by Fort Ritchie, which was known as concrete. That was the code name. Then there was another one in West Virginia at Martinsburg. Let’s see. Then we know about the one in West Virginia at the Grand Hotel.

GC: What was your particular job as a Sergeant.

Lovekin: Well our job was to maintain the integrity of all the lines, to make sure they weren’t tapped – to make sure that whatever he said was either recorded or not recorded correctly.

GC: And how many people would be in a group working around him to perform this job.

Lovekin: Probably was many as 4 or 5. Sometimes there would be more, but that was generally the case. He felt comfortable with small groups and he was a great guy. He was terrific. I would have done anything for that man. He treated everyone with the utmost respect, and I think he was basically a man of integrity. He was a man who was very honest, which is a rare commodity. He would discuss his beliefs yes.

GC: Why do you think that there is a cover-up – why the President doesn’t speak out about it? Like a lot of them say that their hands are tied. What’s your gut feeling?

Lovekin: Well because so much of the authority was given away to private firms.

GC: Do you think that this was going on already in the Eisenhower administration?

Lovekin: Yes I do. When he said the main thing we have to fear is the military industrial complex, he wasn’t kidding, and he had the subject matter we are talking about in mind. He was quite explicit about that.

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Monday, February 27, 2006

Lovekin's Military Credentials in Question - No Longer! (Pt 4)

Stephen Lovekin
     The attraction to Stephen Lovekin as a possible insider witness to a UFO/ET event involving a President and or the White House etc., is most certainly enhanced by being packaged as a "high ranking military official." What is on the table (at present) is a declaration from an individual, an anecdote if you will. In a court of law, it would be considered eye witness testimony.

Obviously, the character of the witness can add or take away from the authenticity of a respective account. Certainly, it is far

Frank Warren
By Frank Warren
The UFO Chronicles
2-27-06
more impressive and more apt to be believed coming from a Brigadier General then a layperson etc. Sagan said, (and what I have come to call Sagan's Law) "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

Kevin Randle wrote in part:

"This is important stuff, if it could be confirmed. A general officer, one who had once held the ear of the president and who could report on the president’s interest in UFOs, would make an impressive witness, especially if he could talk of a UFO crash and recovered debris. It should be relatively simple to verify Lovekin’s credentials as a general."

In that vein IMHO Kevin proceeded with some investigative research to vet the witness using his skills as a researcher along with his own personal experience in the military; he posted his progress on his blog; personally, I didn't take his exposé as slander or being libelous, and most importantly definitive. I believe it's important to note that people have come forward in the past, that at the present time seemed very credible, that later proved to be otherwise, and Kevin Randle has has had direct involvement/experience in these matters, henceforth his righteous skepticism is warranted.

Now all that said, what are we left with? In my view, having done some of my own research into Lovekin, with the exception of what was recently submitted to Greer for publication (in regards to Lovekin's military background) it is unclear what originated from him. Most importantly is there anything to date, that negatively affects the character of the man making the claim? I think not! His credentials, and the question of his Brigadier General status are to be commended whether they're regular military or some sort of state militia. The key point from my perspective is his tenure at WHASA, which he has provided documents in support thereof.

I have located other members of WHASA, and the common theme amongst them, is that they were culled from various military schools (at a very young age); they were vetted by the FBI; they were trained by the NSA; they held top secret clearances; rank was a non-issue, and they wore civvies; they worked with the Secret Service, and in close proximity to the President; they provided crypto secure communications and went everywhere it was needed, e.g., the White House basement, Camp David, Mt Weather etc.

Unfortunately, and is often the case, we UFO folks get into these pissing matches and that becomes the focus, rather then the important research that needs to be taken to task.

Might I suggest we take Kevin at his word, that he meant no malice towards Lovekin and get on with the research of the evidence, i.e., a credible witness with a incredible disclosure.

Thursday, February 23, 2006

Lovekin's Military Credentials in Question - No Longer!
- Part Two -

Stephen Lovekin

By Frank Warren
The UFO Chronicles
2-23-06

Steven Greer     Yesterday Steven Greer wrote a "stinging missive" in partial rebuttal to Kevin Randle's piece on Stephen Lovekin, a labeled "whistleblower" by Greer and his "Disclosure Project." He wrote:

THE ENABLERS OF SECRECY
For over a decade, The Disclosure Project and CSETI have worked to identify reliable government and military witnesses to secret UFO/ET-related events and projects.

Without an office, staff or significant budget, we have identified hundreds of such whistle-blowers, who have come forward heroically and without compensation so that you, the public, may know the truth. It has been a costly and all-consuming effort to unravel the biggest secret in modern history, so that our civilization may reclaim its future and attain sustainability.

Alas, a steady drum-beat of slander, libel, defamation of character, and ad hominem attacks have continued to occur from certain quarters. For the most part, we have chosen to ignore such attacks, since generally they arise from either sour-grapes and jealous elements of the so-called UFO subculture or from paid disinformation hacks. We prefer to focus on constructive change and doing the real work of Disclosure.

But it must be acknowledged that, left unaddressed, at times such attacks create a dynamic where secrecy is enabled and perpetuated. For if we, as a community, cannot defend these brave and heroic whistle-blowers, who will? And left undefended, a dynamic will evolve where a wet-blanket will be thrown on the willingness for these already-reluctant (and often threatened) witnesses to come forward.

Many of you have read the recent attacks and defamation of a courageous Disclosure Project Witness, Brigadier (Brig.) General Stephen Lovekin, Esq., by one Kevin Randle.

Randle claims Brig. General Lovekin is not a Brigadier General and suggests he has falsified or concocted his credentials. Nothing could be further from the truth. See www.DisclosureProject.org for a file of documents that establish Brig. General Lovekin's time in the White House as well as his status as a BG (Brig. General).

That Randle could not, with whatever investigative competence he may or may not possess, show that this fine and heroic witness was a Brig. General is not reason for his public defamation of this man.

While Brig. General Lovekin was hospitalized, literally fighting for his life, Randle has engaged in casting aspersions on his credibility, and by extension, on The Disclosure Project. Prior to publishing these baseless accusations, Randle never contacted me or Brig. General Lovekin to ascertain the facts of the matter.

This is typical of the so-called investigators within the hobbyist UFO subculture, who arrogate to themselves the role of police, judge and jury about such matters - all the while failing to engage in a modicum of due diligence or care.

Would it really have been so difficult to ask Brig. General Lovekin for documentation of his status? He is a well-regarded attorney in NC with a public listing. Instead, Randle chose to publish his libelous claims and besmirch a fine man's reputation.

Such events have happened throughout the history of UFO secrecy. Good and sincere people come forward, to disclose the truth or change the status quo, only to have countless rabid wolves set upon them, slandering them and defaming their reputations.

This behavior, altogether unchecked by the interested public that deserves to know the truth, serves to enable secrecy by discouraging further selfless and sincere best-faith efforts by professionals like Brig. Gen. Lovekin and indeed myself. I am a medical doctor, Lovekin is an attorney and his cousin, Dr. Ted Loder, is a PhD scientist and scientific advisor to the Disclosure Project. How can the UFO community
expect such professional people to step forward if we will not defend them from these vicious and baseless attacks?

For who would want to step forward, to disclose the truth and blow the whistle on the rogue and illegal secrecy surrounding UFOs, UFO-connected technologies and the like only to have the UFO community itself set upon them with one ugly attack after another?

Whether out of jealousy or shadowy ties to those who desire to perpetuate secrecy, the effect is the same: Such ad hominem attacks serve to dissuade others from coming forward.

Moreover, insofar as The Disclosure Project is providing important whistle-blower testimony and documents to government leaders in the US, Canada and other countries, these libelous assertions serve to discourage such government officials from looking further into the matter.

Enough is enough.

A Call to Action

- It is time for you, the concerned public, to hold such behavior accountable. We encourage you to contact Randle, and others who engage in similar baseless attacks, and demand that they behave responsibly and cease and desist from such attacks on courageous whistle-blowers.

- The Disclosure Project asks that you help us identify a top quality Attorney with experience in defamation, libel and slander cases to work with us in defending the rights and reputation of Disclosure Project witnesses.

- We ask that you write publications or organizations affiliated with those who engage in such attacks and demand that they take actions to stop such behavior.

- We ask that you help us identify further UFO military and government witnesses and support the Disclosure Project at www.DisclosureProject.org so that we may continue to provide the public with the truth.

<> We must not enable those who would enable secrecy. It is time that we hold such behavior accountable and defend the honor, reputation and testimony of such fine and heroic witnesses as Brig. General Stephen Lovekin.
Kevin Randle (Sml) 2Today in response Kevin Randle writes:
I would think, before you take off on a rant, you’d want to see what I have to say about “Brigadier General” Stephen Lovekin.

Might I suggest you read the information that I have posted at www.KevinRandle.blogspot.com. Then decide if the questions I raised were reasonable or if I have launched some kind of ad hominem attack on Lovekin.

Second, it would seem to me that those after the information they claim is hidden by the government would want to be sure that their whistle blowers were exactly who they said they were. Ask yourself this question: If a reporter found the information I did, would he or she be more inclined to accept or reject the testimony of Lovekin.

The solution is simple. Rather than imply Lovekin is a general in the National Guard Reserve (which doesn’t exist) and rather than suggest he has a long career in the Army, explain that he holds his commission in the State Guard of North Carolina Association. Also explain that he was not a general while serving in the White House Army Signal Agency, but was, in reality, a rather low ranking enlisted man.

And finally, for those who wonder about my credentials, let me point out that I served in the Army in Vietnam, I was a member of the Iowa National Guard that was called to active duty and served for 14 months including a tour in Iraq, and I am being recalled for another tour in the Middle East. So, I have the right to ask questions about someone who says he is a general, but who is strangely left out of and off all the official sites and locations that could verify this. I am not a part of a volunteer, civilian organization like the State Guard of North Carolina Association.

Thanks for reading the above.

Kevin D. Randle
[It is understood that Stephen Lovekin has been experiencing serious health problems--we wish him a full and speedy recovery]

Wednesday, February 22, 2006

Lovekin's Military Credentials in Question - No Longer!
- Part One -

Stephen Lovekin

Greer Lays Lovekin's Cards on The Table

By Frank Warren
The UFO Chronicles
2-22-06

Steven Greer     There has been much controversy as of late in regards to the "military credentials" of one "Stephen L. Lovekin." Lovekin a practicing attorney in North Carolina first came to light in Steven Greer's book, Extraterrestrial Contact, Granite Publishing LLC 1999 pg. 357 as "Witness K." Greer describes "Witness K" as:

Stephen Lovekin (Sml)
"Major SL, a respected lawyer who was an Army cryptographer in the Pentagon from 1959-61. He he was shown samples of debris from the crash of an ET craft in New Mexico in the late 1940's, and it was demonstrated to him the extraordinary properties of the material. He saw the ET writing on the debris and was told it was being studied by Army cryptographers, but they had not (in 1959) broken the code. He also had confirmed to him then President Eisenhower's interest in the subject, that he knew of the subject, but that he was being left out of substantial information dealing with ET technology programs. Major SL [Lovekin] had a top-secret clearance and continues to possess a top secret clearance as an Army reserve today."
Kevin Randle (Sml) 2The most recent imputation came from Ufologist and well known author, "Kevin Randle"; in part he wrote:
" . . . Thanks to a book entitled Stolen Valor I’m now suspicious of most claims of military association, especially those who claim to have achieved high rank. It surprised me then and continues to surprise me that so many people will claim military service who have never worn a uniform and that so many of those who were actually in the military have embellished their careers. . .. "
Randle made attempts to validate Lovekin's military background to no avail; that with his (Randle) own military experience he concluded:
". . . This all suggests to me that the "whistle blower" testimony offered by Stephen L. Lovekin is of little use in developing any policies related to UFOs or extraterrestrial visitation. There is no corroboration of his many claims of military service as a high-ranking officer, no verification of his positions in the White House and little reason to believe he was witness to the things he claims. Like so many of the other whistle blowers, he should be removed from our lists."
Today Steven Greer wrote a scolding rebuttal to Randle's missive and he in part said:
"Many of you have read the recent attacks and defamation of a courageous Disclosure Project Witness, Brigadier (Brig.) General Stephen Lovekin, Esq., by one Kevin Randle.

Randle claims Brig. General Lovekin is not a Brigadier General and suggests he has falsified or concocted his credentials."
Greer goes on to further chastise Randle (to put it mildly) about what he describes as "ad hominem attacks" on Lovekin.

For those of you paying attention, in regards to Ufology, lines have been established for researchers in support of what has become known as "Exopolitics" and what I call "moderate Ufology." (This is a larger piece of this pie which we'll delve into at later date). Emotions often run high between the two groups, and sometimes a "civil debate" is hard to come by. Personally, I took Randle's missive as "his voice of skepticism" in regards to Lovekin's declaration as well as a "laundry list" of "investigative chores" he performed in order to validate "Stephen Lovekin's" military background.

Moreover, his piece wasn't "definitive," and his research was still ongoing; let's not forget that he also wrote:
". . . This is important stuff, if it could be confirmed. A general officer, one who had once held the ear of the president and who could report on the president’s interest in UFOs, would make an impressive witness, especially if he could talk of a UFO crash and recovered debris. . . .
Methinks most of us would agree with this ideology, and to that end, the evidence (various supportive documents) provided "by Greer" (recently posted on the "Disclosure" web-site - see below) from Lovekin is invaluable.