By James CarrionIn response to Rick Nelson’s article “Using Your Own Common Sense in UFO Investigations” posted here:
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How timely Mr. Nelson that you took the time to further elaborate on the Stan Romanek case and why we don’t see eye to eye on Stan. Case in point:
Let me quote your article if I may:
“I have found certain actions and conduct by Mr. Carrion in this matter inappropriate, unprofessional and in some instances inexcusable.”Let me respond in kind: I am calling a spade a spade and that same spade is digging their own hole of deception from which there is no way out. Let me quote further from your article:
“ There comes a point when every individual has to stand up and call a spade a spade. I’m standing up Mr. Carrion and publically saying, “Develop some healthy ethics and do the right thing or get the heck out of the way of those who are trying to.” There’s far too much at stake for humanity to let a “so-called” watchdog attack victims and contribute to UFO cover-ups. “
“In a recent radio broadcast Mr. Carrion stated that Lisa Romanek lied about a detail of a meeting she was at with Mr. Carrion and her husband Stan. Anyone who knows Lisa has absolutely no question about her integrity and complete commitment to speak only the truth even when it is personally embarrassing, difficult or painful. To me this is not acceptable conduct by anyone’s standards and I won’t let this kind of conduct go unchallenged. I know of, and openly defend, Lisa Romanek’s honesty, intelligence, memory and integrity. “So let’s examine some recent events that demonstrate how off kilter you are about the Romaneks. On December 28, 2009 Stan Romanek called the MUFON office asking for MUFON’s legal department. On the same day a “recorded voice” called the MUFON office asking for MUFON’s legal address so that MUFON could be served papers. On the same day, Leslie Varnicle, MUFON Colorado State Director received a voice mail from Stan Romanek also asking for MUFON’s legal department. After mulling this over, I posted on the next day, December 29, 2009, my article found here:
Now Lisa was gracious enough to DENY that Stan even made these phone calls in her "white flag" article, where she stated:
“Mr. Carrion can tell all of the BS lies he wants, I cannot stop him, but I will state Here and Now that Stan Romanek did not call and threaten a lawsuit against Carrion… I don’t know what Carrions new game is, but I think he has lost his marbles!”So I challenged her on this by asking:
What are you denying Lisa? That Stan called the MUFON office? That Stan asked for the MUFON legal department? That Stan asked for the legal address MUFON could be served at? That Stan called Leslie Varnicle and left a voice mail with the same demands? Are you saying that someone was impersonating Stan? Are you also denying that Stan has threatened legal action against MUFON in conversations with others? State it plainly and clearly so all can understand.
“Stan and Leslie Varnicle are friends and have been for many years. Stan did leave Leslie a message asking her if there was a legal department in MUFON but only after your post was on the Internet! Stan and Leslie had a conversation regarding your article of a threat of a lawsuit. Stan asked her what was going on and if she knew why you would write such an article. Stan already knew that there was no such department after the disaster years ago with our MUFON investigator who kept (stole) important evidence belonging to Stan. MUFON could not take legal steps to recover the evidence for lack of such a department! I don’t see how a phone call or voice message to a friend’s personal phone asking a question can be seen by anyone as a threat to sue MUFON or you for that matter, especially after the article was posted!!”And now the hole is 20 feet deep. Lisa admits Stan made a call asking for MUFON’s legal department, even though she denied it earlier, except now the story is twisted to make it sound like Stan did this in reaction to my blog article. Bullshit! Lie! Deception! – Is that spade enough for you Mr. Nelson? Unless Stan time travelled to December 29 to read my blog article and then back to leave his original voice mail on December 28, the Romaneks have been caught in a plain and simple bold-faced lie, all documented in writing. Are you still singing the integrity praises of Lisa Romanek?
Here’s my advice Rick – perhaps you should use the “common sense” you profess to and extricate yourself from the hole that you are sliding down into that is the Romanek saga, or perhaps you prefer to pick up the spade yourself and help dig the hole even deeper.