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Thursday, October 24, 2019

Internal Air Force/Navy E-Mails on UFOs, UAPs

Just last month, the U.S. Navy went on the record stating that three videos that have circulated the mainstream media in the last two years were, in fact, considered “Unidentified Aerial Phenomena” or UAPs. Now, recently obtained e-mails from the Navy and the Air Force reveal that ranking members of both

By John Greenewalde
The Black Vault
10-22-19

branches express different views on what they refer to as a “phenomena,” along with showing disagreement with how the overall story is being reported by the mainstream media.

The series of documents were provided to The Black Vault through two different Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests to the Navy and to the Air Force. Records were released for both requests in June and October respectively.

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Clinton Aide Still Mum on UFOs

Last month, Canadian researcher Grant Cameron, arguably the leading authority on the Clinton administration’s dalliance with UFOs in the Nineties, condensed his research into an ebook called The Clinton UFO Storybook: ET Politics in The White House. It’s gotten a little buzz here and there, The Washington Times, Coast to Coast AM, nothing major, despite the fact that big-media outfits like The New York Times and The Washington Post weren’t shy about rehashing the two-decade old story earlier this year.

“In the end nothing much changed,” states Cameron in an email to De

By Billy Cox
De Void
7-28-16

Void, reflecting on the tepid critical feedback. “People are still busy chasing stories about the latest light in the sky. I thought it might take off but not too surprised it didn’t.”

As Hillary Clinton prepares to accept the Democratic nomination for POTUS tonight, however, Cameron looks back on his long investigation – an investigation that ultimately provided the backdrop for informed queries into HRC’s curiosity about UFOs – with at least a measure of satisfaction. “The biggest thrill of the whole thing was the incident that got me to do the book,” he notes. “That was the statement that Hillary made to (New Hampshire newspaper reporter Draymond) Steer in 2007 telling him that the most requested FOIA item at the Clinton Library was UFOs. At that point I had actually given all my Clinton documents away thinking that waiting for a break from the White House was a big waste of time. When she referenced my FOIAs I thought, ‘Wow they are actually paying attention.’”

Anyhow, given the imminent history-making occasion in Philadelphia, De Void can’t help but flash back to a weird and futile email exchange, beginning in 2012, with the man President Clinton dispatched to prowl around for UFO records 20 years ago. Like some Kung Fu zenmaster, former associate Attorney General Webb Hubbell resisted De Void’s email quest for details with an enigmatic reply: “The answers to all your questions will be revealed.” (???) He batted back all subsequent questions with indifference.

Well, a few weeks ago, looking to promote his latest murder-mystery thriller, Hubbell discharged yet another email blast to media outlets. And with all the enthusiasm of his Confederate ancestors’ assault on Cemetery Ridge, De Void decided to make one more last-gasp pass at the sphinx.

To Webb Hubbell, 7/28/16, 10:29 a.m.: OK, just for the sake of due diligence, I’ll be happy to promote your book if you’ll tell me about your attempts to learn more about UFOs under the Clinton administration. Thanks (again) for your consideration. Regards, bcox

To Billy Cox, 7/28/16, 10:52 a.m.: When Hillary is elected she says she will reveal all I discovered. Your answers are near. W.

To Webb Hubbell, 7/28/16, 11:01 a.m.: I’m not entirely certain she actually said that. Is this something you know for a fact, or just something you believe to be true?

To Billy Cox, 7/28/2016, 11:07 a.m.: Only what I have read. W.

To Webb Hubbell, 7/28/16, 11:11 a.m.: No desire to go on record to see if it will square with what she ultimately delivers? It would make a great yardstick.

To Billy Cox, 7/28/16, 11:13 a.m.: They have the right to decide first. I’ll decide what to do after the election. W.

To Webb Hubbell, 7/28/16, 11:15 a.m.: Well, OK, appreciate the feedback. Keep me in mind when/if you decide to go into detail. Thanks.

To Billy Cox, 7/28/16, 11:19 a.m.: Will do. W.

And the check’s in the mail, the only TV I watch is PBS, I can get another 20 miles on empty, we’ll get right on it, he’s never bitten anyone before, it’s supposed to make that noise, we can still be good friends, etc. etc.

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UFO Psychodrama with President Clinton’s Former Associate, Attorney General Webster “Webb” Hubbell

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Former President Bill Clinton Discusses Secret UFO Files, Aliens, Roswell & Area 51 on Jimmy Kimmel | VIDEO

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UFO Psychodrama with President Clinton’s Former Associate, Attorney General Webster “Webb” Hubbell

A Webb of confusion

De Void’s UFO psychodrama with President Clinton’s former associate Attorney General Webster “Webb” Hubbell briefly defied rigor mortis last week in yet another round of pointless emails. For latecomers to this adventure of the mind, here’s the cheat sheet first:

Arkansas Supreme Court Chief Justice, Little Rock mayor, and Rose Law Firm partner with Hillary Clinton in the 1970s, Hubbell joined the Clinton Justice Department in 1993. The erstwhile Razorback offensive tackle resigned in 1994 during a tax fraud investigation, which produced an indictment and a conviction. After pulling time in the clanger, Hubbell in his 1997 autobiography Friends In High Places dropped a weird little teaser about how No. 42 assigned him to gather previously undisclosed information about UFOs and the JFK assassination. Webb wrote he didn’t have any luck, and he let it go at that. But his claims begged for elucidation.

By Billy Cox
De Void
2-26-16

In 2012, with a former CIA agent stating he discovered a smoking-gun cache of Roswell evidence in the Agency’s archives in 1995, De Void contacted Hubbell for a response. What followed was a protracted and bizarre exchange that – fshhzzt! – simply fizzled out like a little party balloon. Still, De Void continued to receive Webb’s email blasts because he’s writing books now, nonfiction this time, thrillers evidently. Earlier this month, I got another one touting the upcoming release of quote “the next Jack Patterson Thriller, A Game of Inches, which comes out in May.”

So what the hell, right?
To Webb Hubbell, 2/17/16, 4:18 p.m.: How about a comment or two on the Hillary/Podesta advocacy for transparency on UFOs?

Two minutes later …

To Billy Cox, 2/17/16, 4:20 p.m.: That’s a good idea. W

WTF?

To Webb Hubbell, 2/17/16, 4:21 p.m.: Seriously, it could help promote your book.

To Billy Cox, 2/17/16, 5:19 p.m.: I’m serious. good idea. W

OK dude. Don’t blow it. Don’t come off all lovesick and craven. Let him sleep on it.

To Webb Hubbell, 2/18/16, 9:13 a.m. Great. Should we do a phoner, or would you prefer a list of email questions?

No reply. But it’s Thursday. Give him the weekend to climb into the attic and lug down all those boxloads of notes.

The weekend comes and goes. Monday comes and goes. Now it’s Tuesday.

To Webb Hubbell, 2/23/16, 10:00 a.m.: Cold feet? I get that. Still – it’s time this country had the long overdue adult conversation. I hope you’ll be a part of it.

To Billy Cox, 2/23/16, 10:13 a.m.: Don’t have cold feet. Its not March yet. W.

Hunh? Doesn’t the weather start to warm up in March? Maybe he’s in the Southern Hemisphere. Either way, screw it, the bobber’s still twitching.

To Webb Hubbell, 2/23/16, 1:26 p.m.: OK, here goes: Was there any context for your assignment to look for UFO records? In other words, were you aware of any longstanding interest by the Clintons in the phenomenon before they got to the White House? Did you ask why President was interested in this subject?

Do you remember exactly when President Clinton initially contacted you about researching UFOs/JFK? Was the assignment a surprise to you, or had you sort of been expecting it? Personally, I might’ve thought someone with military or intelligence credentials would be better positioned to dig for this stuff.

Did you ask for an intelligence briefing on the subject? If so, who did that for you and what were you told? How much time did you devote to your research? Was it just you or did you have staffers helping out? With what agencies or individuals did you consult? Did you check in with John Gibbons at the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy? How much did you know about Laurance Rockefeller’s lobbying efforts to bring transparency to this issue? Any interaction with John Podesta on UFOs during this period? When you stated you didn’t find anything, was it because there was nothing there, or was it because you ran into a wall of classification? Were you satisfied with the access you got? When and why did you conclude your search? And how surprised are you today that Podesta and Hillary aren’t afraid to talk about an issue that most politicians wouldn’t touch without strapping themselves into hazmat suits?

Evidently the Clinton library has released more than 7,000 pages of files on the JFK assassination. Were you surprised by anything you discovered on that end?

Again, I’ll be happy to mention your book.

No reply. He’s probably deliriously ecstatic about having his literary endeavors promoted in De Void. I’ll give him a night to steady his nerves. He’ll probably have something waiting for me in my inbox first thing in the morning.

To Webb Hubbell, 2/24/16, 3:05 p.m.: OK, just for the sake of clarity, you were just pulling my chain, right?

The day goes by. Then another day. And another. This is soooo not the way to get De Void to rave about the next Jack Patterson Thriller.

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Hillary Clinton Gives Promise To Investigate UFOs

Clinton Admits Investigating Area 51

Former President Bill Clinton Discusses Secret UFO Files, Aliens, Roswell & Area 51 on Jimmy Kimmel | VIDEO

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UFO UpDates Fades to Black

By Kevin Randle
A Different Perspective
12-23-13

I had noticed over the last few months that there were fewer posts to UFO UpDates than there had been in recent years. I’m not sure why there was a decline, but there is fallout from it. Errol Bruce-Knapp who ran the list for many, many years, has posted the following:

Not, perhaps, the merriest Christmas news for some subscribers and readers to/of UFO UpDates, but the time has come...

The world has moved on, apparently beyond the need of a centralised service such as this List - witness the dramatic drop in List-bound traffic of the last few years.

So, the plan is to mothball the List and for Glenn Campbell to take-back the Archive, by this coming New Year's Day, via his hosting company. Glenn wrote the script that made the Archive work and originally hosted it. The post@ufoupdateslist.com will also be retired at the end of the year.

The Archive's addresses - depending on how you access it - should not change. Nor should the search facility. "Should",because until we actually move the Archive we won't know.

I'm grateful to all those who contributed 90,00+ posts to UFO UpDates over these many years, increasing the awareness and knowledge of the phenomena and my 'ufological' education.

My thanks to Glenn Campbell for his advice and support over the years and for taking over the Archive for the benefit of succeeding generations of the 'seriously interested'.

I've been retired for the past six years tho' there are still things on my bucket list to be completed, such as the digitising and uploading of several hundred hours of my Strange Days... Indeed radio program to virtuallystrange.net ...

Trusting that all will be revealed, eventually,

Errol Bruce-Knapp
Late-Moderator of UFO UpDates - Toronto

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Over the years the discussions have sometimes been acrimonious, sometimes heated but always interesting. It was a way to communicate with fellow travelers, a way to see rich and divergent points of view, and to learn a little about some of the more obscure cases. Errol, as moderator often directed the conversation and eliminated some of the more heated comments, keeping the list on a fairly even keel. It was a fun way to start a day, seeing what others had to say about the world of UFOs.

For Errol, this was truly a labor of love because I can think of no other reason someone would devote so much time to the list. He kept it going, gently reminding the subscribers of the rules and generating controversy. I know that I used the list to learn more about specific cases, engaged in dialogue with a wide range of researchers around the world, and to expand my horizons.

UFO UpDates was a fine source of information and controversy and I have missed it in the last year. In fact, just the other day I noticed that it had been a long time since I had seen anything from it. I’m sad to see it go, but I wish Errol the best and thank him for providing the resource and keeping it going for so long. . . .

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Thursday, October 24, 2019

Internal Air Force/Navy E-Mails on UFOs, UAPs

Sunday, July 31, 2016

Clinton Aide Still Mum on UFOs

Saturday, February 27, 2016

UFO Psychodrama with President Clinton’s Former Associate, Attorney General Webster “Webb” Hubbell

Saturday, December 28, 2013

UFO UpDates Fades to Black