Showing posts with label Rosell. Show all posts
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Friday, November 14, 2014

Noted Roswell Researcher Talks of 'Smoking Gun Evidence' at University Forum

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UFO Experts Say 'We Are Not Alone'

UFO experts say 'we are not alone'

By Michelle Basch
www.wtop.com
11-13-14


"one of the speakers used the occasion to reveal evidence he called a 'smoking gun.'"

      WASHINGTON -- UFOs were the topic of a panel discussion Wednesday night at American University, and one of the speakers used the occasion to reveal evidence he called a "smoking gun."

"We have come into possession of a couple of Kodachrome color slides of an alien being lying in a glass case," author and researcher Thomas Carey told the near-capacity crowd in Abramson Recital Hall.

He's been researching the 1947 Roswell incident since 1991.

"What's interesting is, the film is dated 1947. We took it to the official historian of Kodak up in Rochester, New York, and he did his due diligence on it, and he said yes, this filmstrip, the slides are from 1947. It's 1947 stock. And from the emulsions on the image, it's not something that's been Photoshopped like today. It's original 1947 images, and it shows an alien who's been partially dissected lying in a case."

Tuesday, October 06, 2009

“The Mogul Balloon Controversy Continues”

Air Force UFO ID Chart

By Dennis Balthaser
www.truthseekeratroswell.com
10-1-09


Dennis Balthaser     Recently Mike Shinabery, education specialist at the New Mexico Museum of Space History, contacted me for comments about an article he was writing about the Mogul Balloon controversy related to the 1947 Roswell Incident. His article was published in the Alamogordo Daily News newspaper on Sunday, August 30, 2009, and is shown here in its entirety.

By Michael Shinabery
New Mexico Museum of Space History

“Of the several dozen Project Mogul balloon flights from 1947-1950 – the majority launched from the Tularosa Basin – three lifted aloft this week in 1948.

One launched Aug. 31 and tested an automatic ballast valve, then landed at Fort Stockton, Texas. A Sept. 1 flight was recovered at Neuvas Casas Grandes, Chihuahua, Mexico, and a Sept. 3 flight-tested a neoprene coated nylon balloon that touched down at Villa Ahumada, Chihuahua.

The Roswell Report: Case Closed” (USAF/1997) reported Mogul had military and scientific purposes, but the foremost was listening for launches of Soviet nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles. A monograph, “Cold War Balloon Flights 1945-1965” (on the Web site vectorsite.net), said microphones attached to the balloons listened for “sound waves.”

Mogul sought to “maintain America’s technological superiority, especially with respect to guarding against … a devastating surprise attack” the Soviet Union might launch, said “The Roswell Report” Fact vs. Fiction in the New Mexico Desert” (USAF/1994).

Militaries have long utilized balloons. During World War II, according to vectorsite.net, the Allies developed “decoys … such as inflatable phony tanks … to fool German reconnaissance aircraft.” An article in the New Mexico Museum of Space History Archives, “Remote Piloted Aerial Vehicles,” described how Austrians, in 1849, “launched some 200 pilot less balloons against the city of Venice. The balloons were armed with bombs controlled by timed fuses. … Some of the balloons exploded as planned but the wind changed direction and blew several balloons back over the Austrian lines.”

The Japanese launched “anti-personnel bombs” against the United States and Canadian west coast, stated a second archived article, “Fugos: Japanese Balloon Bombs of WWII.” It documented how 9,300 were launched, resulting in “a little over 300 balloon bomb incidents.” The only deaths occurred after a woman and five children at a church picnic in Oregon tried to move one of the contraptions. A 1945 Seattle Times article said the bomb exploded.

Mogul, one of the first post World War II balloon programs, continued “the cooperative wartime relationship between civilian research institutions and the military,” said “The Roswell Report: Fact vs. Fiction in the New Mexico Desert.” The document, along with Karl Pflock in “Roswell” (Prometheus/2001), stated New York University was the civilian institution involved with Mogul.

Technology to fly balloons to extreme altitudes came with the “invention of improved plastics, particularly polyethylene” after World War II, said “Cold War Balloon Flights.” While under contract to the military, NYU graduate student Charles Moore “made a significant technological discovery: the use of polyethylene for high altitude balloon construction” said “Roswell: Case Closed.” Mogul became the first balloon project to use the lightweight polyethylene.

Moore, in a 1995 NMMSH oral history, said that in early 1947 his group “approached General Mills to make balloons out of polyethylene and were rebuffed. … We of course weren’t in position to describe the classified high priority programs we had.” So a manufacturer in Merignac, New York, “made the first polyethylene balloons,” said Moore.

Documentation compiled by NMMSH archivist Wayne Mattson showed that on June 4, 1947 the fourth Mogul flight touched down northwest of Roswell. “The Roswell Report: Fact vs. Fiction in the New Mexico Desert” described how three “lifter balloons” pulled a “train” of equipment that included 26 main balloons. The “train” stretched to 657 feet and, said “Cold War Balloon Flights,” included “kitelike structures covered with aluminum foil to allow the balloon system to be tracked on radar.” The two Air Force “Roswell” publications conjecture that upon landing this might have been misconstrued as a “debris field,” becoming the impetus behind the infamous UFO Roswell Incident.

Mogul Balloon Train
“I suspect,” Moore said, “that the New York University flights probably are responsible for the Roswell incident. … Every time that we flew balloons in late June, and early July the local radio station in Alamogordo would carry reports of flying saucers being seen over the Tularosa (Basin).”

UFO researcher and columnist Dennis Balthaser, a Roswell resident, disagreed.

“It’s of special interest to me as a researcher, that in the photographs taken in General Ramey’s office on July 8, 1947… the only thing presented for the photographs was a weather balloon, with none of the equipment that would have been attached to a Mogul balloon, such as sonobuoys or radar reflectors,” he said.

Ramey & Dubose with Balloon DebrisGen. Ramey and Col. DuBose examine remains of a
weather balloon in the General’s office.

Balthaser pointed out that the fourth Mogul flight, on June 4, 1947 “was actually cancelled due to poor weather conditions. The balloon was probably released due to having been filled for launch, without any of the testing equipment attached,” he said. “Since the (UFO crash) happened … in early July, that balloon must have taken the long way to arrive at the ranch almost a month later.”

There have been four different official explanations of the incident over 62 years. The first “excuse,” Balthaser said, was the July 8, 1947 press release that reported “we have a flying saucer in our possession. The next morning newspapers east of Chicago had General Ramey’s cover-up story that it was nothing but a weather balloon, which the elite 509th Bomb Wing (at Roswell Army Air Field) misidentified.”

Pflock wrote he was “certain Project Mogul and the supporting activities of the New York University team at Alamogordo played a central role in the incident. … It would have been quite consistent with concerns about Mogul security for the army quietly to contact the Roswell newspapers and radio stations and ask them to spike or downplay the story,” he said. Additionally, Mogul officials did visit Roswell Army Air Field “to make sure the just-renewed New York University/Project Mogul activities at Alamogordo Army Air (Field) would not lead to any further misunderstandings,” Pflock said.

Balthaser said the government’s third and fourth explanations came in the form of the 1994 and 1997 “Roswell” publications. He counters those with the fact, he said, that the “Russians didn't do any nuclear testing until 1949,” and that the bodies allegedly recovered at Roswell could not have been anthropomorphic dummies because those “weren’t used until 1953. Weather balloons and Mogul balloons didn’t have bodies on board,” he said. “It's time for the proponents of the Mogul balloon theory to move on.”

Michael Shinabery is an education specialist at the New Mexico Museum of Space History. E-mail him at michael.shinabery@state.nm.us. Wayne Mattson, a NMMSH archivist, and Michael Smith, the museum registrar, contributed to this article.

So the controversy about the Mogul balloon theory continues in articles such as the one above, on the Internet from time to time, and in other forums. If the debunkers and critics would bring something new to the table just once, it might be worth discussing, but after 62 years that hasn’t, and apparently is not going to happen. The Roswell crash based on extensive research by David Rudiak and others has eliminated the Mogul balloon theory as a possible solution to the Roswell Incident, and as I stated in the above article, “I think it’s time for the proponents of the Mogul balloon theory to move on.”

Note: Illustrations and photos were not present in article written by Mike Shinabery, and have been inserted in Dennis Balthaser’s article for clarification.

Wednesday, October 01, 2008

Credibility of Major Jesse Marcel and Jesse Marcel Jr.

Jesse Marcel Jr.  & Senior
By Dennis Balthaser
© 10-1-08

     It appears that there are still those that refuse to give credibility to Major Jesse Marcel and his son Jesse Marcel Jr., who after all these years, are still two of the most credible “first-hand” witnesses of the 1947 Roswell Incident. I never had the opportunity to meet Major Marcel, but have had many conversations about him with Stanton Friedman, who was the first to interview him in 1978. I do personally know Jesse Jr., and have had conversations with him, and have read his book “The Roswell Legacy” (the revised edition shown below, published in 2008), which it appears as usual, that the debunkers, critics and skeptics that are the loudest, have not read.

The Roswell LegacyIn defense of the Marcels, I’d like to share some of the comments made by Jesse Jr. in his book not only about his Dad, but also about his own life since 1947. The book is obviously written by someone that had a deep respect for his father, and presents the information in the only way he knows---honestly from the heart, as his father desired, to get the truth out to the public eventually.

Both of these gentlemen deserve our highest respect for the many years they both gave to serving our country in the military, (Major Marcel as probably the top intelligence officer in the military in the 1940’s, and his son Jesse as a helicopter pilot, flight surgeon and a civilian physician.) Talk about credibility and integrity as compared to many of the other witnesses that have surfaced over the years in relation to the Roswell Incident. Those with backgrounds such as theirs are rare when researching the Roswell Incident. It took Jesse Jr. 60 years to set the record straight about his Dad and himself, and those that still question these two gentlemen are ignoring the truth about their first-hand knowledge of the event.

Major Marcel voluntarily enlisted in the U.S. Army Air Force in December 1941.

Up until his death in 1986, Major Marcel repeatedly stated that the material we examined was as he described it, “not of this earth,” and that the truth about Roswell had yet to be revealed to the public. In order to reveal that truth, Jesse Jr’s. father made him promise to see the true story told. Jesse Jr. fulfilled that promise with his book in 2007, and anyone seriously interested in the Roswell Incident would benefit from reading it, before criticizing or demeaning them.

As an eleven year old boy Jesse Jr. was “privileged” to be one of the individuals who actually saw and handled debris from the crash site, that his Dad and Captain Sheridan Cavitt had recovered from the site. This occurred at his home in Roswell, prior to his Dad returning to the base from the Foster ranch debris field, when the Marcel’s lives would be forever changed.

Jesse Marcel JrOne of the things Jesse Jr. observed which again silences the critics and debunkers, is the fact that the foil material did not have a paper backing for rigidity like the foil of a radar target. Also of importance was the fact that none of the debris spread out on the Marcel’s kitchen floor that Jesse Jr. observed that night, or any material that Major Marcel saw at the debris site where the material was recovered, contained any electronic components which a weather balloon or Mogul balloon would have had such as radio transmitters, microphones, and sensors for detecting and recording weather data, or pressure waves in the atmosphere from a possible Russian nuclear test. It’s important also to note that the Russians didn’t do any nuclear testing until 1949, Mogul balloon launch No. 4 (which skeptics like to use as what crashed near Roswell), was cancelled due to weather related problems, and finally, the pictures taken in General Ramey’s office on July 8, 1947 also did not contain any electronic equipment.

In 1942 Marcel attended the Army Air Force Intelligence School as a 1st Lieutenant. After graduation he was invited to join the school’s faculty, an honor bestowed upon only the brightest and most talented students.

Two years later Marcel would be assigned to the 509th Composite Bomb Group in Nevada as their S-2 Intelligence Officer. He was now part of a special, hand-picked group, where the work was classified as Top-Secret. While in Nevada he helped work out the details of dropping the atomic bombs on Japan. The 509th was then assigned to the island of Tinian, where Marcel participated in briefing the flight crews before the missions to Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

Nagasaki Bomb Blast
Upon returning to the states, Major Marcel enrolled in a radar training school at Langley Air Force Base in Virginia, graduating in September 1945, and became an expert on the state-of-the-art radar devices, including varieties of the rawin radar targets, including the ML-307 reflector used on the Mogul balloons. As Jesse Jr. states in his book, “for those that say his father confused UFO debris with a radar target is ludicrous.” So the same government that paid for his advanced radar school in 1945 would accuse him of not knowing the difference between a UFO and a weather balloon 2 short years later, while assigned to the 509th in Roswell, New Mexico. Copies of the radar and intelligence school diplomas Major Marcel attended are in Jesse Jr’s. book. I have several other commendation and recommendation documents for Major Marcel in my file for his intelligence work, before and “after” the Roswell Incident.

Jesse Marcel & Balloon

Setting aside my thoughts about the Marcel’s credibility, lets not forget that the debris Major Marcel took to General Ramey’s office was changed to a weather balloon for the photos taken by James Bond Johnson. I interviewed Johnson as did Kevin Randle and David Rudiak, prior to my interview with him. In all three interviews James Bond Johnson’s remarks were less than factual about his involvement. He did take the photographs, but was not involved in any other way, in fact telling me in our first conversation, that he knew very little about the Roswell Incident. The interview can be read here.

Ramey & Dubose
The really sad part for me is the fact that when General Ramey ordered Major Marcel to pose for the pictures with the obvious weather balloon on the floor of the Generals office, General Ramey ordered Marcel to keep silent, and to not make any comments in the presence of the civilian photographer. That appears to be when the cover-up became a reality, and Major Marcel realized he was in the middle of it, and had become the scapegoat. For those that have seen the photographs taken in General Ramey’s office, it’s apparent to me that there are unopened packages along the wall, and more importantly the brown paper on the floor under the debris staged for the photographs is from a new roll of paper and shows no indication of ever being wrapped around any debris or anything else brought to Fort Worth by Major Marcel.

I firmly believe that as a researcher part of my responsibility is to provide information that is truthful and factual for my future generations as well as yours.

I believe Major Marcel and his son Jesse Jr. have done that.