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Eric who? — the Admiral
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The admiral at the center of controversial notes
describing his inability to access a classified UFO research program
says the documents are bogus. Furthermore, he says the alleged author of
those notes, physicist Dr. Eric Davis, never interviewed him. “It’s all fiction,” says former Defense Intelligence Agency Director Thomas Wilson, from his home in Virginia. “I wouldn’t know Eric Davis if he walked in right now.” |
De Void 6-15-20 |
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“My memory is not foggy. Of all the stuff on the Internet, the only
thing which is accurate is, I did have a meeting with (Edgar)
Mitchell in ’97 or ’98, when I was Vice-2″ — Vice Admiral Thomas |
Posted on
Imgur last year, the 15 pages of typed notes, often referred to now as the Core Secrets
memo, were presented as the rough transcripts of a conversation between
Wilson, shortly after retiring from the Navy, and Davis, on 10/16/02. The
nut graph of Core Secrets, if true, would confirm some of the darkest
suspicions about the UFO phenomenon – that research is being undertaken and
walled off by private contractors, to the extent that not even insiders at
the most elite levels of military intelligence have the proper security
clearances to review the evidence.
Davis, who famously researches the sorts of exotic technology often observed
in UFO behaviors, has never affirmed or denied his ostensible authorship of
Core Secrets when pressed over the past year. He did, however, tell the New
York Post in May that the documents were leaked by the estate of the late
astronaut and Apollo 14 moonwalker Dr. Edgar Mitchell.
But in his first public statement on Core Secrets, Wilson rejected the entire
premise of the meeting and his role in it. The notes indicate that Wilson and
Davis rendezvoused in Las Vegas, inside a car attended by three uniformed
military personnel, in the parking lot of the Special Projects Building of
defense contractor EG&G. “I’m not saying that sometime, somewhere, I never
met (Davis), but I certainly don’t know him, I don’t remember him, and I
definitely did not sit with him in a car for an hour in Las Vegas,” Wilson
told De Void.
“You may also see in those notes where I came with two other naval officers, a
lieutenant and a lieutenant commander, and a petty officer who was driving the
car. I was not even in the Navy then. And the Navy was certainly not ferrying
me around in a car at that point.
“Those notes are really detailed – it’s like somebody wrote a fiction piece,”
Wilson said. “But it never happened, trust me. There are so many things in
those notes that are demonstrably inaccurate. And I don’t know how I could
prove it, but I haven’t been to Las Vegas since 1979, 80.”
Wilson said he hadn’t gotten around to reading the Core Secrets docs until someone brought them to his attention within the past week or so. He said his catch-up crash course included watching researcher Richard Dolan’s YouTube overview of the contents and their implications. Wilson called that synopsis “silly.”
One thing in the notes that is true, Wilson added, is that he and
Mitchell did meet face to face. Wilson said he couldn’t remember the
date, but Core Secrets alleges the meeting occurred in 1997, when Wilson was
Vice Director of Intelligence for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, shortly before
becoming the DIA director. He acknowledged that the subject of UFOs and
special access programs did come up. But he reiterated
what he told De Void in 2008, that he wasn’t interested in going down that rabbit hole.
“I don’t remember the details, but they [Mitchell was accompanied by UFO
researcher Steven Greer] said there would be evidence in black programs, and
would I be interested in chasing it down,” Wilson said. “I told them I had far
too many things to do.
“I’m not saying there are no such programs because I don’t know. I didn’t check or follow up. It might not have been a waste of time for somebody (to pursue), but I did not have time to waste, believe me. At the time I was up to my eyeballs in Bosnia and Kosovo and Korea and Iraq and, you name it, terrorism. So I didn’t feel I should spend my time — well, I had enough black programs I had to deal with.”
In 1996, Mitchell told me he was pursuing leads that UFO “information is now held primarily by a body of semi- or quasi-private organizations that have kinda spun off from the military intelligence organizations of the past.” He called those arrangements “dangerous” and added:
“I’m not saying there are no such programs because I don’t know. I didn’t check or follow up. It might not have been a waste of time for somebody (to pursue), but I did not have time to waste, believe me. At the time I was up to my eyeballs in Bosnia and Kosovo and Korea and Iraq and, you name it, terrorism. So I didn’t feel I should spend my time — well, I had enough black programs I had to deal with.”
In 1996, Mitchell told me he was pursuing leads that UFO “information is now held primarily by a body of semi- or quasi-private organizations that have kinda spun off from the military intelligence organizations of the past.” He called those arrangements “dangerous” and added:
“Imagine an organization that has a black budget, an unquestioned source of funds, reports to no one, and has this exotic technology that they can keep to themselves and play with.” He also said that if NASA had prior knowledge “of ET contact existing within the government, and we were sent into space blind and dumb to such information, I think it is a case of criminal culpability.”
Mitchell repeated some of those allegations in 2008 on CNN’s Larry King Live.
Without mentioning Wilson, Mitchell said he had talked with “an admiral” who
“had found the people responsible for the cover-up and for the people who were
in the know and were told, I’m sorry, admiral, you do not have need to know
here and so, goodbye.”
Upon learning 12 years ago that Wilson had immediately rejected those allegations, Mitchell said he was “shocked,” but he refused to challenge the discrepancy. “I do not wish to engage him on this matter,” Mitchell said.
Wilson’s repudiation of the Core Secrets narrative is consistent with what a handful of his contemporaries – either mentioned in the Core Secrets notes or involved in the relevant chain of command in 1997 – have told De Void.
Upon learning 12 years ago that Wilson had immediately rejected those allegations, Mitchell said he was “shocked,” but he refused to challenge the discrepancy. “I do not wish to engage him on this matter,” Mitchell said.
Wilson’s repudiation of the Core Secrets narrative is consistent with what a handful of his contemporaries – either mentioned in the Core Secrets notes or involved in the relevant chain of command in 1997 – have told De Void.
Former Los Alamos National Laboratory scientist
Oke Shannon, former Principal Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition,
Technology and Logistics
Noel Longuemare, former Vice Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and USAF Gen.
Joe Ralston, and former Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and
Logistics
Dr. Paul Kaminsky, have all stated they have no knowledge of the Core Secrets version of
events.
As to the broader subject of UFOs, Wilson remains skeptical. Over the course of his long military career, Wilson said he knew of countless initially unusual sightings that turned out to have prosaic explanations, many of them submarines. But the Pentagon’s recent verification of videos showing F-18s in pursuit of UFOs have lowered his guard somewhat.
“I looked at those Navy videos with some interest,” he said. “I don’t know what they saw. It’s interesting, for sure.”
As to the broader subject of UFOs, Wilson remains skeptical. Over the course of his long military career, Wilson said he knew of countless initially unusual sightings that turned out to have prosaic explanations, many of them submarines. But the Pentagon’s recent verification of videos showing F-18s in pursuit of UFOs have lowered his guard somewhat.
“I looked at those Navy videos with some interest,” he said. “I don’t know what they saw. It’s interesting, for sure.”
Eric Davis could not be reached for comment.
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