Did the Canadians Analyze the Roswell Crash Material?
|By Grant Cameron|
The President's UFO Website
Notes of a conversation with Defense Research Board Scientist A.W.L. Bridge
As a background to the conversation the reader should know that Arthur Bridge was a Canadian government scientist working for the defense research board which was the main weapon research unit for the department of defense.
Bridge was a member of a secret “inner circle” of government employees who worked with Wilbert Smith on gravity control experiments and other sensitive matters. The work was done in off hours. Bridge was the youngest member of the group.
I was the only researcher that Bridge ever talked to. He wouldn’t have talked to me either, except that Wilbert Smith’s wife asked him to talk to me. Bridge lived in Morden, Manitoba just 70 miles from my home.
This conversation occurred just after I had sent Bridge two documents by mail for comment. The two documents included the MJ-12 document, and a letter written by scientist Robert Sarbacher to researcher William Steinman about his involvement in a set of crashed saucer briefing that had taken place in 1950 at Wright Patterson Air Force Base. The conversation took place in late 1987 or early 1988.
As you will see from the phone conversation Bridge was very paranoid after his government career. When I went to his house to talk both his wife and two children would be asked to leave the room. Then he would close the door, and remind me that nothing he would tell me should leave the room.
Bridge’s comments from my hand-written notes:
• “How long has it been” etc etc
• “I worked for 18 ½ years for these people” (I assumed he meant the Defense Research Board)
• “I’m still under the 25 year rule”
• “I’ll tell you Grant. I analyzed a piece that was pulled off that New Mexico thing. I know that thing was analyzed. It was super light weight material.”
• He was quite amazed to read the reference in the Sarbacher letter to the aliens being “insect like.” ‘That is absolutely the first time I have heard that. I’ve heard humanoid, but that is the first time I have heard them being referred to as insect like.”
• He says he is 55. Buck (Buchanan – another inner circle member living in Alberta Canada) is 71
• (Phone clicks twice in a one minute period) Bridge becomes very upset. Without referring to the click he says, “This is what I mean. There is not a secure phone in this whole province (Manitoba).
• (The phone clicks again) “I don’t know if this is on your end or on mine. Is it on yours?
• I reply that I don’t think so.
• “Could you please check?” Bridge asks.
• (After checking the extension phone I tell him it is not on my end.)
• ‘I don’t think there is a phone line in the whole world that is secure. Either that or it’s these small town operators sticking their nose in where it doesn’t belong.”
• “Buck stopped by there for two days. He had your letter. We had a discussion.”
• In reference to his interest in UFOs, then and now, he kept using the expressions “red-circled” and “red-eyed.” He assumed I knew what he was talking about. I didn’t and didn’t ask.
• He also assumes I know a lot about him. I know next to nothing as Mrs. Smith said nothing about him.
• He was not specific but stated that he wished to stay out of the public end of the Smith research. “It ruined my career. I assume it ruined Wilbert Smith’s as well.”
• Then he made reference to Wilbert Smith’s two sons. James – “He was into the arts. I am afraid I was responsible for that.’ (James was a music school teacher and who was the one who held the Smith files before donating them for research to the University of Ottawa) Dyck – “More into technical things. Works as a maintenance supervisor for a hospital in the Hill Gatineau region.” (James had nothing to do with UFOs as far as I know)
• “Buck and I worked on these anti-gravitational experiments with Wilbert…now that experiment I built…we had quite an active group in Ottawa Not many people knew what we were doing…but it leaked a couple times to the press. It wasn’t officially sanctioned.”
• “When I left (moved from Ottawa) I felt I should leave it with the active group. From time to time when I am going through my toolbox I find odds and ends – coils and stuff.” (When at his house he did go to the toolbox and gave me a magnet that had been used in the anti-gravity experiments. I still have it)
• Referred to the inner circle group of a half dozen people as “a cell.” (There were 40+ people in the larger flying saucer club that Wilbert and Murl hosted for the public. “We know we were being watched. I know a couple of people who showed up who weren’t who they were claiming to be. That’s fair ball though. I don’t mind that.”
• “Worked for DRB from 1952 to 1969.”
• ‘I also analyzed a piece from that Washington thing. ( I believe he is referring to a small piece that was reported shot off during the 1952 over flights of Washington that was sent to Smith by the CIA for analysis. It was carried to Canada by Captain Donald Goodspeed along with some angel hair that was found. Goodspeed went on to write the official history of the Defense Research Board called A History of the Defence Research Board of Canada.) Again he assumes I know a lot more than I do.
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